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"Mark Hickey" wrote in message
... Blair P. Houghton wrote: It doesn't matter what he thought, or even what he did. The state's pre-existing procedure for recounting the entire state would have given him the win. Wrong on two counts. Gore never ASKED for a statewide recount, and using pre-existing procedures (and standards) clearly would have given Bush the win. This is well-documented, and not subject to wishful thinking. If we used pre-existing procedures, then there would NOT have been a recount. The Florida Courts had ruled in the passed the recounts were not done for dimpled or hanging chads. "(f) Prior practice before this election, which was not to do a manual recount because of the claim that a county's machines were failing to count partially perforated or indented chads. See Transcript of Oral Arg. in Bush, at 39-40 (concession of Florida Attorney General that no county had previously done so). For example, in Broward County Canvassing Board v. Hogan, 607 So.2d 508, 509 (Fla. 4th DCA 1992), the board recognized that "voter error in piercing of computer ballot cards created loose or hanging paper chads." But the board declined to do a manual recount even though two machine counts indicated a margin of 3-5 votes. "Such voter errors, the board explained, are caused by hesitant piercing, no piercing, or intentional or unintentional multiple piercing of computer ballot cards, creating what are referred to as overvotes and undervotes. The board thereupon declined appellee's request for a recount". Id. (emphasis added). Thus, before this election, the fact that a request for a manual recount was based on incompletely perforated chads was considered not just insufficient, but an affirmative reason to reject a manual recount because the request was based on voter error rather than on machine or ballot defects." http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/election/floridahouse.pdf Only if a statewide recount would have allowed the selective use of unprecedented types of "counting" (for dimpled chads, overvotes, etc.) would Gore have been able to muster enough votes. Otherwise known as manipulating the vote so that Gore can steal the election. But before you say "that's what should have happened"... answer this... It's November 10th, 2004 and Florida's count is once again razor thin. Kerry wins the initial count, and a couple recounts clearly. Bush asks for a statewide recount, but using a different method to determine valid votes - one that's not in the books, but one that may give him the victory. Would you support that? Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame |
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On 26 Oct 2004 16:33:00 GMT, (Hunrobe) wrote in
message : I don't understand why you are wasting your time on Blair, Mark. He is not only an obvious "true believer" unwilling to let pesky little details like facts and truth interfere with his opinions Heh! And it's not even a h*lm*t thread :-) Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University |
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Mark Hickey wrote:
Blair P. Houghton wrote: It doesn't matter what he thought, or even what he did. The state's pre-existing procedure for recounting the entire state would have given him the win. Wrong on two counts. Wrong on no counts. 100% factual on all counts. --Blair "Stop spinning. Start riding." |
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Hunrobe wrote:
Mark Hickey wrote in part: Blair P. Houghton wrote: ---remainder snipped--- I don't understand why you are wasting your time on Blair, Mark. He is not only an obvious "true believer" unwilling to let pesky little details like facts and truth interfere with his opinions but he's not even very good at arguing facts I'd like to see you morons find a fact. --Blair "Nothing but air in here." |
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Blair P. Houghton wrote in message .. .
wrote: Blair P. Houghton wrote in message The results I posted were the fullest recount anyone ever could have done. You just had to qualify your response. FULLEST recount is NOT a FULL RECOUNT Of disputed ballots. A full recount is mooted by the fact that a full recount can not be done. Some ballots are so spoiled that no data can be interpreted in them to determine a vote. But you go on pretending pigs can fly. Thank you for admitting that is was a parital recount, thus proving that you are the REAL LIAR in this thread. Sorry, I just proved you're the liar. ROFLMAO!!! Really, why have you refused to post any source with a full recount??Why do you have to qualify you responce with "the fullest recount"?? Why can't POST A FULL RECOUNT????? --Blair FACT: The NORC SAID they could NOT get access to all of the ballots. FACT: The NORC SAID did NOT recount all 67 counties, because Volusia was so disorganized, they used the county's totals, not theirs. FACT: You have NO PROOF, you are lying out you ass. "And I have the data to back it up." Yet you have REFUSED to back it!!! Why won't you post the proof??? |
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Blair P. Houghton wrote in message .. .
wrote: Apparently, you do not the ramifications of the Electoral Count Act of 1887. The courts could NOT take away Bush's certification, only Congress has that authorty. To talk about a decision that happened two weeks after state certification completely ignores how the system works. My standard answer for you twits: "It was legal, but it wasn't democracy." --Blair "Dubya didn't win." Typical moronic response from someone who refuses to prove his point. |
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Blair P. Houghton wrote in message .. .
wrote: Blair P. Houghton wrote in message The results I posted were the fullest recount anyone ever could have done. You just had to qualify your response. FULLEST recount is NOT a FULL RECOUNT Of disputed ballots. A full recount is mooted by the fact that a full recount can not be done. Some ballots are so spoiled that no data can be interpreted in them to determine a vote. But you go on pretending pigs can fly. You are such a liar. It is NOT that the ballots were spoiled beyond interpretation, it was they could find all of the disputed ballots. As I have proven to those who can do simple math. That seems to leave you out of the loop. Thank you for admitting that is was a parital recount, thus proving that you are the REAL LIAR in this thread. Sorry, I just proved you're the liar. --Blair "And I have the data to back it up." |
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