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We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg
Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? |
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"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. |
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:49:23 +0100, "Catrap"
wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message .. . We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. For our honeymoon, Clare and I had a motoring tour of Europe, starting in a Chateau in Champagne, progressing to Trier, a town on the banks of the River Mosel, then to the Black Forest and later Passau. After leaving Germany we drove through Austria to Slovenia, spending the night on the banks of Lake Bled, and finally into Croatia where we spent a week. The return trip was just as adventurous, through Italy and over the St Bernard Pass into Switzerland, then back through Germany (to avoid the French tolls), into Belgium and back to the UK via Calais. 3000 miles in total. But it was not the motoring we recall from that trip. It is the cycle rides around the sleepy vineyards of Champagne on our tandem; it is the glasses of deliciously sweet chilled auslese wine served at the wineries along the Mosel cycle path; it is our 48 hour excursion along the Danube cycle route into Austria; it is our early morning circumnavigation of Bled with the mist rising from the lake, so good that we cycled around it twice; it is our shopping trips on the Adriatic, passing all those Dutch caravans stuck in traffic; it is the exploration of Lago Maggiorie; it is my solo attempt to cycle up the St Bernard Pass, while Clare drove to the summit; it is our exploration of the city of Frieburg following the cycle route along the river. The car was simply a means for tandeming in different places during a limited period of time. |
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On 17/09/2013 07:45, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:49:23 +0100, "Catrap" wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. For our honeymoon, Clare and I had a motoring tour of Europe, starting in a Chateau in Champagne, progressing to Trier, a town on the banks of the River Mosel, then to the Black Forest and later Passau. After leaving Germany we drove through Austria to Slovenia, spending the night on the banks of Lake Bled, and finally into Croatia where we spent a week. The return trip was just as adventurous, through Italy and over the St Bernard Pass into Switzerland, then back through Germany (to avoid the French tolls), into Belgium and back to the UK via Calais. 3000 miles in total. But it was not the motoring we recall from that trip. It is the cycle rides around the sleepy vineyards of Champagne on our tandem; it is the glasses of deliciously sweet chilled auslese wine served at the wineries along the Mosel cycle path; it is our 48 hour excursion along the Danube cycle route into Austria; it is our early morning circumnavigation of Bled with the mist rising from the lake, so good that we cycled around it twice; it is our shopping trips on the Adriatic, passing all those Dutch caravans stuck in traffic; it is the exploration of Lago Maggiorie; it is my solo attempt to cycle up the St Bernard Pass, while Clare drove to the summit; it is our exploration of the city of Frieburg following the cycle route along the river. The car was simply a means for tandeming in different places during a limited period of time. Bertie, sounds wonderful, but I can assure you that it will be lost on Catcrap. |
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"brianrob1961" wrote in message ... On 17/09/2013 07:45, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:49:23 +0100, "Catrap" wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. For our honeymoon, Clare and I had a motoring tour of Europe, starting in a Chateau in Champagne, progressing to Trier, a town on the banks of the River Mosel, then to the Black Forest and later Passau. After leaving Germany we drove through Austria to Slovenia, spending the night on the banks of Lake Bled, and finally into Croatia where we spent a week. The return trip was just as adventurous, through Italy and over the St Bernard Pass into Switzerland, then back through Germany (to avoid the French tolls), into Belgium and back to the UK via Calais. 3000 miles in total. But it was not the motoring we recall from that trip. It is the cycle rides around the sleepy vineyards of Champagne on our tandem; it is the glasses of deliciously sweet chilled auslese wine served at the wineries along the Mosel cycle path; it is our 48 hour excursion along the Danube cycle route into Austria; it is our early morning circumnavigation of Bled with the mist rising from the lake, so good that we cycled around it twice; it is our shopping trips on the Adriatic, passing all those Dutch caravans stuck in traffic; it is the exploration of Lago Maggiorie; it is my solo attempt to cycle up the St Bernard Pass, while Clare drove to the summit; it is our exploration of the city of Frieburg following the cycle route along the river. The car was simply a means for tandeming in different places during a limited period of time. Bertie, sounds wonderful, but I can assure you that it will be lost on Catcrap. How predictable. Briannob1861 demonstrating his hilarious infant school humour. |
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:58:17 +0100, Catrap wrote:
"brianrob1961" wrote in message ... On 17/09/2013 07:45, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:49:23 +0100, "Catrap" wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. For our honeymoon, Clare and I had a motoring tour of Europe, starting in a Chateau in Champagne, progressing to Trier, a town on the banks of the River Mosel, then to the Black Forest and later Passau. After leaving Germany we drove through Austria to Slovenia, spending the night on the banks of Lake Bled, and finally into Croatia where we spent a week. The return trip was just as adventurous, through Italy and over the St Bernard Pass into Switzerland, then back through Germany (to avoid the French tolls), into Belgium and back to the UK via Calais. 3000 miles in total. But it was not the motoring we recall from that trip. It is the cycle rides around the sleepy vineyards of Champagne on our tandem; it is the glasses of deliciously sweet chilled auslese wine served at the wineries along the Mosel cycle path; it is our 48 hour excursion along the Danube cycle route into Austria; it is our early morning circumnavigation of Bled with the mist rising from the lake, so good that we cycled around it twice; it is our shopping trips on the Adriatic, passing all those Dutch caravans stuck in traffic; it is the exploration of Lago Maggiorie; it is my solo attempt to cycle up the St Bernard Pass, while Clare drove to the summit; it is our exploration of the city of Frieburg following the cycle route along the river. The car was simply a means for tandeming in different places during a limited period of time. Bertie, sounds wonderful, but I can assure you that it will be lost on Catcrap. How predictable. Briannob1861 demonstrating his hilarious infant school humour. Oh dear. So you are annoyed that someone actually had great fun and pleasure while using a bicycle to get to wonderful places? I suggest you do not try to make other people miserable just because you are miserable. |
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"Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? I'd use the roof, it's out of the way and won't obscure your rear view. Don't know if it adds enough (anything?) to your fuel consumption to worry about but at least when you go on a long trip and need to pull over to get something quickly out of the boot, you don't have to bugger around taking a bike off before you can open the tailgate. Plus it doesn't add anything to your length, so you can reverse into parking spaces etc. (You, not your wife, it's a new car). I've never used one but I imagine it's also easier and quicker to attach and detach a roof-carrier than a rear one, and they look kinder to the paintwork too. Maybe it depends how often you're going to be carrying your bike. |
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"Peter Keller" wrote in message ... On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 08:58:17 +0100, Catrap wrote: "brianrob1961" wrote in message ... On 17/09/2013 07:45, Bertie Wooster wrote: On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 00:49:23 +0100, "Catrap" wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message ... We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? Don't bother. Chuck them all in the bin and just enjoy the delights of motoring. For our honeymoon, Clare and I had a motoring tour of Europe, starting in a Chateau in Champagne, progressing to Trier, a town on the banks of the River Mosel, then to the Black Forest and later Passau. After leaving Germany we drove through Austria to Slovenia, spending the night on the banks of Lake Bled, and finally into Croatia where we spent a week. The return trip was just as adventurous, through Italy and over the St Bernard Pass into Switzerland, then back through Germany (to avoid the French tolls), into Belgium and back to the UK via Calais. 3000 miles in total. But it was not the motoring we recall from that trip. It is the cycle rides around the sleepy vineyards of Champagne on our tandem; it is the glasses of deliciously sweet chilled auslese wine served at the wineries along the Mosel cycle path; it is our 48 hour excursion along the Danube cycle route into Austria; it is our early morning circumnavigation of Bled with the mist rising from the lake, so good that we cycled around it twice; it is our shopping trips on the Adriatic, passing all those Dutch caravans stuck in traffic; it is the exploration of Lago Maggiorie; it is my solo attempt to cycle up the St Bernard Pass, while Clare drove to the summit; it is our exploration of the city of Frieburg following the cycle route along the river. The car was simply a means for tandeming in different places during a limited period of time. Bertie, sounds wonderful, but I can assure you that it will be lost on Catcrap. How predictable. Briannob1861 demonstrating his hilarious infant school humour. Oh dear. So you are annoyed that someone actually had great fun and pleasure while using a bicycle to get to wonderful places? I suggest you do not try to make other people miserable just because you are miserable. No, not annoyed. Not even the slightest bit bothered. How could anyone be cross with such simple minded people? |
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On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 10:06:50 +0100, "Mentalguy2k8"
wrote: "Bertie Wooster" wrote in message .. . We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? I'd use the roof, it's out of the way and won't obscure your rear view. Don't know if it adds enough (anything?) to your fuel consumption to worry about but at least when you go on a long trip and need to pull over to get something quickly out of the boot, you don't have to bugger around taking a bike off before you can open the tailgate. Plus it doesn't add anything to your length, so you can reverse into parking spaces etc. (You, not your wife, it's a new car). I've never used one but I imagine it's also easier and quicker to attach and detach a roof-carrier than a rear one, and they look kinder to the paintwork too. Maybe it depends how often you're going to be carrying your bike. Getting the tandem onto the roof is seriously tricky (without damaging the paintwork) when I do it on my own. Solo bikes would be much easier, but I still reckon a tow bar mount will be easier, with little or no risk to the paint. One advantage of a tow bar carrier is that other drivers are less likely to drive close behind me. Here's a blog on the subject: http://blog.twenga.co.uk/bike-carriers-transport/ |
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On Monday, 16 September 2013 23:36:49 UTC+1, Bertie Wooster wrote:
We have just made my selection for a replacement car for our V reg Peugeot 406, which I bought second hand just under 10 years ago. The 406 is beginning to fall to pieces - with the air conditioning broken, the 12v power socket broken, the remote control door lock broken and locking and unlocking the car can only be performed passenger side; and to top it all the nearside wing mirror glass was broken through a misjudged reversing manoeuvre by my wife, but I have managed to gaffer tape a replacement glass into place for our forthcoming trip to France. Our new car will be a 13 month old Peugeot 5008 MPV, delivery in two weeks, after we return from the Loire Valley in our dilapidated 406. I have a roof mounted tandem carrier which is fine, and a rear end bicycle rack which I won't want to use on the new car. What is better for transporting bicycles (other than tandems), roof carriers or towbar carriers? panel van |
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