Nobody likes a grass...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-24124187

Let's hope that someone manages to catch Dave Sherry doing something
wrong on his bike (or even while driving his London bus).

After all, cyclists and London bus drivers have no peers when it comes
to quantity of traffic offences per 100km travelled.

On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:17:04 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

After all, cyclists and London bus drivers have no peers when it comes
to quantity of traffic offences per 100km travelled.

Can you qualify that statement?

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

On 17/09/2013 23:49, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:17:04 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

After all, cyclists and London bus drivers have no peers when it comes
to quantity of traffic offences per 100km travelled.

Can you qualify that statement?

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?

Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 00:02:27 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

On 17/09/2013 23:49, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:17:04 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

After all, cyclists and London bus drivers have no peers when it comes
to quantity of traffic offences per 100km travelled.

Can you qualify that statement?

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?

Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

I assume from your evasion of my request that you cannot back up your
statement. Is my assumption correct?

On 18/09/2013 00:19, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 00:02:27 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

On 17/09/2013 23:49, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Tue, 17 Sep 2013 17:17:04 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

After all, cyclists and London bus drivers have no peers when it comes
to quantity of traffic offences per 100km travelled.

Can you qualify that statement?

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?

Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

I assume from your evasion of my request that you cannot back up your
statement. Is my assumption correct?

Your request is not relevant to my statement and neither would an answer
to it be probative.

On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:02:27 UTC+1, jnugent wrote:

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?
Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

When anyone makes a posting that's in conflict with your view of the world, you demand documentary proof, yet proof by assertion is all you offer. Funny, that.

On 18/09/2013 01:06, wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:02:27 UTC+1, jnugent wrote:

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?
Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

When anyone makes a posting that's in conflict with your view of the world, you demand documentary proof, yet proof by assertion is all you offer. Funny, that.

Most cyclists (especially in London) scoff at the law and at the normal
conventions of normal human interaction. This is largely because they
cannot be traced.

Fact.

London bus-drivers do absolutely as they like, particularly with regard
to speed and to red traffic lights. This is largely because the rules of
the road (and the discretion of TaL) is exercised in their favour, for
selfish reasons.

Fact.

Any assessment of this based on the number of convictions misses the
point by a couple of country miles.

HTH.

On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:19:26 UTC+1, jnugent wrote:

When anyone makes a posting that's in conflict with your view of the world, you demand documentary proof, yet proof by assertion is all you offer. Funny, that.

Most cyclists (especially in London) scoff at the law and at the normal
conventions of normal human interaction. This is largely because they
cannot be traced.

Fact.

London bus-drivers do absolutely as they like, particularly with regard
to speed and to red traffic lights. This is largely because the rules of
the road (and the discretion of TaL) is exercised in their favour, for
selfish reasons.

Fact.

Any assessment of this based on the number of convictions misses the
point by a couple of country miles.

HTH.

So I take it that we won't be getting any independent verification of these "facts".

On 18/09/2013 01:31, wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 09:19:26 UTC+1, jnugent wrote:

When anyone makes a posting that's in conflict with your view of the world, you demand documentary proof, yet proof by assertion is all you offer. Funny, that.

Most cyclists (especially in London) scoff at the law and at the normal
conventions of normal human interaction. This is largely because they
cannot be traced.

Fact.

London bus-drivers do absolutely as they like, particularly with regard
to speed and to red traffic lights. This is largely because the rules of
the road (and the discretion of TaL) is exercised in their favour, for
selfish reasons.

Fact.

Any assessment of this based on the number of convictions misses the
point by a couple of country miles.

HTH.

So I take it that we won't be getting any independent verification of these "facts".

You can check them for yourself, any time, any day, at any traffic nodal
point in C London.

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 01:19:26 -0700, jnugent
wrote:

On 18/09/2013 01:06, wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 September 2013 08:02:27 UTC+1, jnugent wrote:

A link to the number of convictions per 100km by mode would suffice.

Why?
Are you unable to trust your own eyes?

When anyone makes a posting that's in conflict with your view of the world, you demand documentary proof, yet proof by assertion is all you offer. Funny, that.

Most cyclists (especially in London) scoff at the law and at the normal
conventions of normal human interaction. This is largely because they
cannot be traced.

Fact.

What are drivers' excuses for their willful and blatant criminal
speeding?

London bus-drivers do absolutely as they like, particularly with regard
to speed and to red traffic lights. This is largely because the rules of
the road (and the discretion of TaL) is exercised in their favour, for
selfish reasons.

Fact.

Are London bus drivers more prone to speeding than the average
motorist?

Are London bus drivers more phone to disregarding red traffic signals
than the average motorist?

Any assessment of this based on the number of convictions misses the
point by a couple of country miles.

Why?

If you have a valid reason, can you point to some other source for
your assertions?

HTH.

You are no help at all.