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Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea
of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. Brian. |
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"brianrob1961" wrote in message
news Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. I don't wear mine all the time but I probably should. I think helmet wearing should be encouraged but am not sure about making it compulsory. People should be better educated about the benefits of wearing brain protection. Brains are difficult to fix if physically damaged. That's a fact. |
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On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:54 +0100, brianrob1961 wrote:
Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. Brian. Helmets yes. Legislation no. |
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On 20/09/2013 19:17, John Benn wrote:
"brianrob1961" wrote in message news Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. I don't wear mine all the time but I probably should. I think helmet wearing should be encouraged but am not sure about making it compulsory. People should be better educated about the benefits of wearing brain protection. Brains are difficult to fix if physically damaged. That's a fact. I've had at least two instances where a helmet probably saved me from serious injury or death. One was on ice where I landed on the side of my head with the full weight of me and my bike behind the impact. I saw stars even through my helmet. The worst though was making the mistake of riding along a disused canal towpath in shorts and making the decision to stop to avoid some nettles a bit too late. I put my foot down, missed the edge and ended up falling 4 feet or so into the sludge that was left in the bottom of the cut. I must have looked like the creature from the swamp when I emerged. It was only when I got home that a friend pointed out a large bruise on my forehead that must have come about in the second or so that I was under the 'water'. I can't say for certain that my helmet saved me from a worse injury, but I wouldn't like to repeat the experience to find out. Unconscious and face down in water and sludge with the nearest person about a quarter of a mile away is not a good situation to be. I don't know how true it is that where helmet use has been enforced cycling has reduced in popularity. That would be my worry. Cycling in general saves lives by improving health and I wouldn't want to put people off getting on a saddle. If you restrict cyclists with too many laws you also start to reduce the very appeal of the sport, the sense of freedom that motorists so resent up having. It's a hard one, but on balance I would not support legislation and we have to remember the true agenda of the people who do support it: they have no interest in out well being and simply want to stop us riding. If they were ever in a position to achieve their aim they would simply move onto another target. |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:03:23 +0100
brianrob1961 wrote: I've had at least two instances where a helmet probably saved me from serious injury or death. You certainly show evidence of someone who has suffered head trauma. |
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On Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:43:15 UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:54 +0100, brianrob1961 wrote: Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. Brian. Helmets yes. Legislation no. but surely as humans on Earth we should expose our heads to the sun when available. I feel it is beneficial to my immune response and mineral turnover to expose my body and head to the sun. In my state of disease I feel it is not in order for me to cover up and I don't cover my head except to stave off the cold of night. |
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On Saturday, 21 September 2013 13:03:23 UTC+1, brianrob1961 wrote:
I've had at least two instances where a helmet probably saved me from serious injury or death. One was on ice where I landed on the side of my head with the full weight of me and my bike behind the impact. I saw stars even through my helmet. The worst though was making the mistake of riding along a disused canal towpath in shorts and making the decision to stop to avoid some nettles a bit too late. I put my foot down, missed the edge and ended up falling 4 feet or so into the sludge that was left in the bottom of the cut. I must have looked like the creature from the swamp when I emerged. It was only when I got home that a friend pointed out a large bruise on my forehead that must have come about in the seond or so that I was under the 'water'. I can't say for certain that my helmet saved me from a worse injury, but I wouldn't like to repeat the experience to find out. Unconscious and face down in water and sludge with the nearest person about a quarter of a mile away is not a good situation to be. Your fears are unfounded. Eat butter, greens and fruits and don't fear the nettles. I don't know how true it is that where helmet use has been enforced cycling has reduced in popularity. That would be my worry. Cycling in general saves lives by improving health well it encourages a healthy way in one's life but it does not in itself improve health. and I wouldn't want to put people off getting on a saddle. If you restrict cyclists with too many the naming, Cyclist, is itself restricting by dividing the population into distinct sides. there is also the primary legal meaning behind the term which is why I avoid its use except when strictly required due to the characterisation of persons so as to infer a guilt tye in the legal domain. laws you also start to reduce the very appeal of the sport, the sense of freedom that motorists so resent up having. your free-domain is illusionary, it's just that registered drivers and registered vehicles are tightly bound by legislation. It's a hard one, but on balance I would not support legislation and we have to remember the true agenda of the people who do support it: they have no interest in out well being and simply want to stop us riding. If they were ever in a position to achieve their aim they would simply move onto another target. |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:33:10 -0700, thirty-six wrote:
On Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:43:15 UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:54 +0100, brianrob1961 wrote: Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. Brian. Helmets yes. Legislation no. but surely as humans on Earth we should expose our heads to the sun when available. I feel it is beneficial to my immune response and mineral turnover to expose my body and head to the sun. In my state of disease I feel it is not in order for me to cover up and I don't cover my head except to stave off the cold of night. Agreed that helmets can cause harm. However you do not need much exposure of your head (or any other part of your body) to the sun in order to get the benefits you claim. About 10 minutes a day in full sunlight (or proportionately more when cloudy etc) should be enough. |
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On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:03:23 +0100, brianrob1961 wrote:
On 20/09/2013 19:17, John Benn wrote: "brianrob1961" wrote in message news Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. I don't wear mine all the time but I probably should. I think helmet wearing should be encouraged but am not sure about making it compulsory. People should be better educated about the benefits of wearing brain protection. Brains are difficult to fix if physically damaged. That's a fact. I've had at least two instances where a helmet probably saved me from serious injury or death. One was on ice where I landed on the side of my head with the full weight of me and my bike behind the impact. I saw stars even through my helmet. The worst though was making the mistake of riding along a disused canal towpath in shorts and making the decision to stop to avoid some nettles a bit too late. I put my foot down, missed the edge and ended up falling 4 feet or so into the sludge that was left in the bottom of the cut. I must have looked like the creature from the swamp when I emerged. It was only when I got home that a friend pointed out a large bruise on my forehead that must have come about in the second or so that I was under the 'water'. I can't say for certain that my helmet saved me from a worse injury, but I wouldn't like to repeat the experience to find out. Unconscious and face down in water and sludge with the nearest person about a quarter of a mile away is not a good situation to be. I don't know how true it is that where helmet use has been enforced cycling has reduced in popularity. That would be my worry. Cycling in general saves lives by improving health and I wouldn't want to put people off getting on a saddle. If you restrict cyclists with too many laws you also start to reduce the very appeal of the sport, the sense of freedom that motorists so resent up having. It's a hard one, but on balance I would not support legislation and we have to remember the true agenda of the people who do support it: they have no interest in out well being and simply want to stop us riding. If they were ever in a position to achieve their aim they would simply move onto another target. I have fallen off my bike I think 3 times in the last 30 years. One time I rode into a low wire fence. Straight over the handlebars, top of head on pavement. But low speed. Second time, on a lovely path through the woods. Unfortunately it had been raining, and ahead there was slick mud. No time to slow down, slid, onto the side of my head. 3rd time, slipped and tripped when getting off bike. Straight onto my shoulder and cheekbone. On none of these occasions was I wearing a helmet. I have heard the story "If it wasn't for my helmet I would be dead" hundreds of times. Far more times than ever there were deaths of bicyclists before helmet- wearing became widespread. |
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On Sunday, 22 September 2013 09:06:02 UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
On Sat, 21 Sep 2013 11:33:10 -0700, thirty-six wrote: On Saturday, 21 September 2013 12:43:15 UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote: On Fri, 20 Sep 2013 14:37:54 +0100, brianrob1961 wrote: Are there any cyclists on here who have a good word to say for the idea of legislating to make cyclists wear helmets? And how many of us try to wear them all the time? I usually wear mine. Very occasionally don't, usually on cycle trails rather than the road. However, my vote would be against legislation. Brian. Helmets yes. Legislation no. but surely as humans on Earth we should expose our heads to the sun when available. I feel it is beneficial to my immune response and mineral turnover to expose my body and head to the sun. In my state of disease I feel it is not in order for me to cover up and I don't cover my head except to stave off the cold of night. Agreed that helmets can cause harm. However you do not need much exposure of your head (or any other part of your body) to the sun in order to get the benefits you claim. About 10 minutes a day in full sunlight (or proportionately more when cloudy etc) should be enough. experience shows it can take between 15 minutes and 45 minutes for me to warm up. I've had 40 years of corn oil and it seem eventually I could take no more of the nasty stuff, also probable coeliac amd I'm getting two or three work-overs a day without any gluten . Elderberries seem particularly penetrating above other fruits and berries. I'm hoping for the sun to come out tomorrow, I've kept some berries to have first. |
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