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Old April 10th 20, 02:55 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

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- Frank Krygowski
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Old April 10th 20, 08:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski


Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou
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Old April 10th 20, 05:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski


Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou


"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.
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Old April 10th 20, 05:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 4/10/2020 12:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski


Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou


"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.


As I already state:

Not surprisingly, the CDC says otherwise.
From https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

"What are seasonal influenza-related deaths? Seasonal influenza-related
deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was
likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the
primary cause of death."

Yes, I know you'll never admit you were wrong, no matter how much
documentation people provide.

But you still haven't explained why the medical industry is refusing to
make use of your unique brilliance.

--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old April 10th 20, 05:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 4/10/2020 11:04 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski


Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou


"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.


Despite widespread fabrication/manipulation of the data,
reported deaths[1] are well below any projections. As are
hospital beds, respirators and all of it.

'Our model can't be wrong. We had to adjust the data to fit.'

[1]Actual lower by some unknown amount.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


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Old April 10th 20, 09:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:46:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/10/2020 12:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski

Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou


"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000.. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.


As I already state:

Not surprisingly, the CDC says otherwise.
From https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

"What are seasonal influenza-related deaths? Seasonal influenza-related
deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was
likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the
primary cause of death."

Yes, I know you'll never admit you were wrong, no matter how much
documentation people provide.

But you still haven't explained why the medical industry is refusing to
make use of your unique brilliance.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Seems like you're taking a lesson from Jay and not bothering to read what your own references a

"Does CDC know the exact number of people who die from seasonal flu each year?
CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications."

Covid-19 is not only always listed, it is listed as a primary cause of death in all cases.
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Old April 10th 20, 09:34 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:56:03 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 4/10/2020 11:04 AM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski

Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou


"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000.. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.


Despite widespread fabrication/manipulation of the data,
reported deaths[1] are well below any projections. As are
hospital beds, respirators and all of it.

'Our model can't be wrong. We had to adjust the data to fit.'

[1]Actual lower by some unknown amount.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


That means that they're taking a lesson from the climate change people. We have been in a temperature pause for over 10 years and yet IPCC, NOAA and NASA continue to raise the MGT because that is what their models say. To hell with the very good thermometer data for the USA or the pretty good data from Europe. They are telling us what the temperature is in central Africa where we have NO data whatsoever. Or large parts of Asia. I guess when you have a good thing you adjust your data so that you can hang on to your funding.
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Old April 11th 20, 12:16 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
JBeattie
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:46:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/10/2020 12:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski

Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou

"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported..

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.


As I already state:

Not surprisingly, the CDC says otherwise.
From https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

"What are seasonal influenza-related deaths? Seasonal influenza-related
deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was
likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the
primary cause of death."

Yes, I know you'll never admit you were wrong, no matter how much
documentation people provide.

But you still haven't explained why the medical industry is refusing to
make use of your unique brilliance.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Seems like you're taking a lesson from Jay and not bothering to read what your own references a

"Does CDC know the exact number of people who die from seasonal flu each year?
CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year.. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications."

Covid-19 is not only always listed, it is listed as a primary cause of death in all cases.


If you're so smart, tell me how to kill-file you on Google Groups. That would be helpful, as opposed to the rest of your nattering.

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old April 11th 20, 06:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, 10 April 2020 19:16:10 UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:46:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/10/2020 12:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski

Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou

"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.

As I already state:

Not surprisingly, the CDC says otherwise.
From https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

"What are seasonal influenza-related deaths? Seasonal influenza-related
deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was
likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the
primary cause of death."

Yes, I know you'll never admit you were wrong, no matter how much
documentation people provide.

But you still haven't explained why the medical industry is refusing to
make use of your unique brilliance.

--
- Frank Krygowski


Seems like you're taking a lesson from Jay and not bothering to read what your own references a

"Does CDC know the exact number of people who die from seasonal flu each year?
CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications."

Covid-19 is not only always listed, it is listed as a primary cause of death in all cases.


If you're so smart, tell me how to kill-file you on Google Groups. That would be helpful, as opposed to the rest of your nattering.

-- Jay Beattie.


Or you could just ignore him or avoid reading his posts.

So many here don't like Tom's posts yet those same people can't resist reading his posts and then replying to them. Interesting. Verryyy interestink.

Cheers

Cheers
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Old April 11th 20, 04:29 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 10:46:07 PM UTC-7, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, 10 April 2020 19:16:10 UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 1:30:26 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 9:46:39 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/10/2020 12:04 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 12:14:57 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, April 10, 2020 at 3:56:01 AM UTC+2, Frank Krygowski wrote:
Maybe TLDR, but it is about bicycling and the virus situation. Several
stories:

https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/cycl...173900777.html

--
- Frank Krygowski

Thx. I read it with great interest.

Lou

"Predictions of 1.7 million deaths in the US. We presently have a little below 18,000 deaths. So far the actual influenza deaths are around 56,000. However, these deaths are carefully hidden in the way they are reported.

Covid-19 deaths are, rather than hidden in the cause of death like influenza is, are ALL reported as covid-19 deaths. This is a corruption at its most serious levels.

As I already state:

Not surprisingly, the CDC says otherwise.
From https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/faq.htm

"What are seasonal influenza-related deaths? Seasonal influenza-related
deaths are deaths that occur in people for whom influenza infection was
likely a contributor to the cause of death, but not necessarily the
primary cause of death."

Yes, I know you'll never admit you were wrong, no matter how much
documentation people provide.

But you still haven't explained why the medical industry is refusing to
make use of your unique brilliance.

--
- Frank Krygowski

Seems like you're taking a lesson from Jay and not bothering to read what your own references a

"Does CDC know the exact number of people who die from seasonal flu each year?
CDC does not know exactly how many people die from seasonal flu each year. There are several reasons for this. First, states are not required to report individual flu illnesses or deaths among people older than 18 years of age to CDC. Second, influenza is infrequently listed on death certificates of people who die from flu-related complications."

Covid-19 is not only always listed, it is listed as a primary cause of death in all cases.


If you're so smart, tell me how to kill-file you on Google Groups. That would be helpful, as opposed to the rest of your nattering.

-- Jay Beattie.


Or you could just ignore him or avoid reading his posts.

So many here don't like Tom's posts yet those same people can't resist reading his posts and then replying to them. Interesting. Verryyy interestink..

Cheers

Cheers


How many here will hijack a bicycle tech subject into some other political subject and then decry my postings?

Actual experience in working meteorology doesn't mean a thing to people who have read an article in Science News (more that half of the articles are totally unsubstantiated garbage often written about studies that say almost the exact opposite of the articles) about man-made climate change.

I may not be a doctor but contrary to some loser like Frank, I have actually worked in science the better part of 50 years. My experience is actual success and not bitter complaints about not being accepted as some sort of God because of having (now he states) taught at a college.

What has become of society today? At the dawn of the man-made climate catastrophes I stated that this was nothing more than the normal cyclical weather patterns that have to do with the chaotic motions of air currents and ocean currents. These are all well known and well documented.

At the start of this national covid emergency I also stated what would happen and it has - this virus has already grown so common in the population that those most likely to catch it will. So you will have a large burst of cases and even deaths of those in very poor health followed by a very sharp drop-off in confirmed cases and deaths. This was made absolutely certain by the average age of death of covid-19 victims.

A very small number of victims can get that explosion of an immune system that reacts too slowly and then over-reacts causing a large swelling in the lungs (ARDS) and airway passages. This is a known condition and its causes are well known. It didn't take a genius to figure out that you can try any number of anti-inflammatories to treat it. That hydroxychloroquine was dead cheap because it is made by some 50 different pharmaceutical companies around the world, is used for inflammatory diseases like arthritis and lupus and would give any real pharmaceutical expert some clue.

Instead we have a country being ruled by an unelected elite who believe themselves the masters of this country because they believe that they are the real experts. And the left couldn't be happier. They want people trained to react with abeyance to "authority". That is their target here and it should be understood.
 




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