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Old October 20th 20, 04:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)


Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...

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Old October 20th 20, 05:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


More communism from a college professor. My, isn't that a surprise.
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Old October 21st 20, 01:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)


Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


We have both "State Hospitals" and "Private Hospitals" and I have been
treated in both and as far as I can tell, the medical care is the same
in both. Doctors here, generally speaking, attend the same schools and
have the same qualifications and in fact my Cardiologist at a state
hospital is also employed by a private hospital and has told me that
if I wish I can attend his clinic at the private hospital "but it will
be much more expensive".

The major difference, other then price, is that the state hospitals
are very crowded. Yesterday, my wife went to the state hospital for
her quarterly checkup - she suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes
and a thyroid problem (all controlled by medicine). She left the house
at 06:00 and returned home at 13:00 - it is a 10 minute drive to the
hospital.
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Cheers,

John B.

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Old October 21st 20, 01:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 09:21:37 -0700 (PDT), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


More communism from a college professor. My, isn't that a surprise.


As Macbeth said,
"A tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, Signifying nothing."
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Cheers,

John B.

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Old October 21st 20, 02:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 10/20/2020 8:38 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)


Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


We have both "State Hospitals" and "Private Hospitals" and I have been
treated in both and as far as I can tell, the medical care is the same
in both. Doctors here, generally speaking, attend the same schools and
have the same qualifications and in fact my Cardiologist at a state
hospital is also employed by a private hospital and has told me that
if I wish I can attend his clinic at the private hospital "but it will
be much more expensive".

The major difference, other then price, is that the state hospitals
are very crowded. Yesterday, my wife went to the state hospital for
her quarterly checkup - she suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes
and a thyroid problem (all controlled by medicine). She left the house
at 06:00 and returned home at 13:00 - it is a 10 minute drive to the
hospital.


Interesting.

One way to evaluate that is to to divide the difference in cost by the
difference in waiting time. Your wife can then judge whether the number
of dollars (or baht) per hour she "earned" was worth it.

I recently had to recycle an old TV, for which I now have to pay a fee.
(The trash pickup guys won't take them.) I could have left it at a big
box electronic store for $25, but I decided to "donate" $20 to our
county recycling program instead. Trouble was, the county system took
far, far longer. I figure I "earned" about $4/hr.

I'm happy to support our "Green Team," but not at that time cost.

--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old October 21st 20, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 10/20/2020 12:21 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


More communism from a college professor. My, isn't that a surprise.


:-) So paying a lot more for worse medical care is now patriotic? How weird!


--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old October 21st 20, 03:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:21:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/20/2020 8:38 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


We have both "State Hospitals" and "Private Hospitals" and I have been
treated in both and as far as I can tell, the medical care is the same
in both. Doctors here, generally speaking, attend the same schools and
have the same qualifications and in fact my Cardiologist at a state
hospital is also employed by a private hospital and has told me that
if I wish I can attend his clinic at the private hospital "but it will
be much more expensive".

The major difference, other then price, is that the state hospitals
are very crowded. Yesterday, my wife went to the state hospital for
her quarterly checkup - she suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes
and a thyroid problem (all controlled by medicine). She left the house
at 06:00 and returned home at 13:00 - it is a 10 minute drive to the
hospital.


Interesting.

One way to evaluate that is to to divide the difference in cost by the
difference in waiting time. Your wife can then judge whether the number
of dollars (or baht) per hour she "earned" was worth it.


That won't work! My wife, perhaps a bit old fashioned, reckons that
the way a marriage works is that the husband gets out there and earns
sufficient funds to keep the wife in the manner to which she has
become accustomed.

The problem is that when we were first married she was quite happy to
live in a two room "house" up on stilts, and cook over two hibachi
pots - real luxury there, TWO pots. Then I made the mistake of buying
a fridge... ho! ho! Don't need to go shopping every morning for the
day's food. then came the TV...

But all things considered we've been married for nearly 50 years and
we are still getting along with each other, so I guess it works. I
could ask her the date we got married, she remembers things like that,
when we got married, her birthday, the last time I bought her a new
car, all those things that I'm a bit vague about, so it can probably
be termed a partnership :-)

I recently had to recycle an old TV, for which I now have to pay a fee.
(The trash pickup guys won't take them.) I could have left it at a big
box electronic store for $25, but I decided to "donate" $20 to our
county recycling program instead. Trouble was, the county system took
far, far longer. I figure I "earned" about $4/hr.

I'm happy to support our "Green Team," but not at that time cost.


Here they still repair stuff although I'm not sure about old "box"
TV's as the flat screens are so cheap now and I'm not sure that the
Big Box stores even sell them any more.

But the "garbage truck" still picks up anything that you put out on
the street.
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Cheers,

John B.

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Old October 21st 20, 03:42 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:22:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/20/2020 12:21 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 8:43:00 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)
Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...


More communism from a college professor. My, isn't that a surprise.


:-) So paying a lot more for worse medical care is now patriotic? How weird!



I read that the U.S. is unique in that,
"The United States is the only industrialized country in the world
that does not have Universal Health Coverage for all citizens."
https://axenehp.com/international-he...-versus-world/
--
Cheers,

John B.

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Old October 21st 20, 02:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Frank Krygowski[_4_]
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On 10/20/2020 10:33 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:21:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/20/2020 8:38 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...

We have both "State Hospitals" and "Private Hospitals" and I have been
treated in both and as far as I can tell, the medical care is the same
in both. Doctors here, generally speaking, attend the same schools and
have the same qualifications and in fact my Cardiologist at a state
hospital is also employed by a private hospital and has told me that
if I wish I can attend his clinic at the private hospital "but it will
be much more expensive".

The major difference, other then price, is that the state hospitals
are very crowded. Yesterday, my wife went to the state hospital for
her quarterly checkup - she suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes
and a thyroid problem (all controlled by medicine). She left the house
at 06:00 and returned home at 13:00 - it is a 10 minute drive to the
hospital.


Interesting.


But all things considered we've been married for nearly 50 years and
we are still getting along with each other...


Same thing here! Should we race to 50? ;-)


I recently had to recycle an old TV, for which I now have to pay a fee.
(The trash pickup guys won't take them.) I could have left it at a big
box electronic store for $25, but I decided to "donate" $20 to our
county recycling program instead. Trouble was, the county system took
far, far longer. I figure I "earned" about $4/hr.

I'm happy to support our "Green Team," but not at that time cost.


Here they still repair stuff although I'm not sure about old "box"
TV's as the flat screens are so cheap now and I'm not sure that the
Big Box stores even sell them any more.


This was a flat screen. Apparently the internal power supply board went
bad. Replacement boards were not available, but I could see some bad
electrolytic capacitors, so I replaced those, hoping nothing else was
wrong. No luck.

I could have gambled on a used power supply from Ebay, one that was
stripped out of someone else's dead TV, for about $50. Or I could buy a
new TV for maybe $150.

--
- Frank Krygowski
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Old October 22nd 20, 12:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 09:49:11 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/20/2020 10:33 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 21:21:32 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/20/2020 8:38 PM, John B. wrote:
On Tue, 20 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 10/19/2020 10:20 PM, John B. wrote:

As an aside, medicines prescribed by a doctor at the "state hospitals"
and purchased at the hospital, are even cheaper then at the village
shop. And, if you are over 65 (and a citizen) the whole trip to the
state hospital is free :-)

Well, that's why your terrible socialistic public health system has such
dismal results compared to the sparkly and expensive system of the
United States!

Oh wait...

We have both "State Hospitals" and "Private Hospitals" and I have been
treated in both and as far as I can tell, the medical care is the same
in both. Doctors here, generally speaking, attend the same schools and
have the same qualifications and in fact my Cardiologist at a state
hospital is also employed by a private hospital and has told me that
if I wish I can attend his clinic at the private hospital "but it will
be much more expensive".

The major difference, other then price, is that the state hospitals
are very crowded. Yesterday, my wife went to the state hospital for
her quarterly checkup - she suffers from high blood pressure, diabetes
and a thyroid problem (all controlled by medicine). She left the house
at 06:00 and returned home at 13:00 - it is a 10 minute drive to the
hospital.

Interesting.


But all things considered we've been married for nearly 50 years and
we are still getting along with each other...


Same thing here! Should we race to 50? ;-)


I recently had to recycle an old TV, for which I now have to pay a fee.
(The trash pickup guys won't take them.) I could have left it at a big
box electronic store for $25, but I decided to "donate" $20 to our
county recycling program instead. Trouble was, the county system took
far, far longer. I figure I "earned" about $4/hr.

I'm happy to support our "Green Team," but not at that time cost.


Here they still repair stuff although I'm not sure about old "box"
TV's as the flat screens are so cheap now and I'm not sure that the
Big Box stores even sell them any more.


This was a flat screen. Apparently the internal power supply board went
bad. Replacement boards were not available, but I could see some bad
electrolytic capacitors, so I replaced those, hoping nothing else was
wrong. No luck.

I could have gambled on a used power supply from Ebay, one that was
stripped out of someone else's dead TV, for about $50. Or I could buy a
new TV for maybe $150.


Or just get along without it :-)

I haven't watched TV to any extent for years and years now, partially
because I've lived in countries people speak, and there for the TV
programs are in, some strange language. In fact, I believe that the
last time I watched TV was on a visit to Singapore, where they do
speak a form of English, some 5 years ago and the hotel provided free
TV. I watched Oprah and realized that TV was something that I did not
requite to be happy. Quite the opposite in fact :-)
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Cheers,

John B.

 




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