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Old February 7th 20, 04:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/

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Old February 7th 20, 05:39 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:04:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/

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What do you want to bet with mandatory helmets in case the kids fall down on the grass?
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Old February 7th 20, 11:11 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 08:39:42 -0800, Tom Kunich wrote:

On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 7:04:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ycle-training-

for-every-child-in-england/

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What do you want to bet with mandatory helmets in case the kids fall
down on the grass?


Yep. We have a dinky bicycle education centre provided by our local
government body and "dinky" is the word. It is so small that no adult
rider would be able to ride the circuit.

I'm not sure what it actually teaches in relation to real world bicycling.

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Old February 7th 20, 11:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/


My own experience isn't dissimilar- I started racing because I lived
riding so much and training was an excuse to ride bike every day but to
not be some kind of slacker ("I'm training for a race" rather than "I'm
going for a bike ride"). Over the next nine years it brought me to
despise riding a bike. I was so relieved when I stopped racing.
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Old February 9th 20, 05:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/


My own experience isn't dissimilar- I started racing because I lived
riding so much and training was an excuse to ride bike every day but to
not be some kind of slacker ("I'm training for a race" rather than "I'm
going for a bike ride"). Over the next nine years it brought me to
despise riding a bike. I was so relieved when I stopped racing.


I was going to go for a 30 mile ride this morning but I managed to get 3/4ths of a mile before the wind blew me into the middle of the street twice and was clocking around 360 degrees at 50 mph. They were reporting 40 mph on the peaks but from racing sailboats I have a pretty good grasp of wind speeds. When I turned around and got back I opened the side door of the garage and the gusts were flexing the insulated garage door as long as the side door was open. So much for my Sunday ride.
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Old February 9th 20, 06:15 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 4:51:49 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/


My own experience isn't dissimilar- I started racing because I lived
riding so much and training was an excuse to ride bike every day but to
not be some kind of slacker ("I'm training for a race" rather than "I'm
going for a bike ride"). Over the next nine years it brought me to
despise riding a bike. I was so relieved when I stopped racing.


I was going to go for a 30 mile ride this morning but I managed to get 3/4ths of a mile before the wind blew me into the middle of the street twice and was clocking around 360 degrees at 50 mph. They were reporting 40 mph on the peaks but from racing sailboats I have a pretty good grasp of wind speeds. When I turned around and got back I opened the side door of the garage and the gusts were flexing the insulated garage door as long as the side door was open. So much for my Sunday ride.


You shouldn't be riding on a Sunday anyway. You should be in church, confessing to your sins, of which Slow Johnny and Rideablot and Franki-boy will give you an exhausting* list.

Andre Jute
* No, I don't mean "exhaustive", I mean exhausting
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Old February 9th 20, 08:46 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_2_]
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On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 9:15:42 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 4:51:49 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/

My own experience isn't dissimilar- I started racing because I lived
riding so much and training was an excuse to ride bike every day but to
not be some kind of slacker ("I'm training for a race" rather than "I'm
going for a bike ride"). Over the next nine years it brought me to
despise riding a bike. I was so relieved when I stopped racing.


I was going to go for a 30 mile ride this morning but I managed to get 3/4ths of a mile before the wind blew me into the middle of the street twice and was clocking around 360 degrees at 50 mph. They were reporting 40 mph on the peaks but from racing sailboats I have a pretty good grasp of wind speeds. When I turned around and got back I opened the side door of the garage and the gusts were flexing the insulated garage door as long as the side door was open. So much for my Sunday ride.


You shouldn't be riding on a Sunday anyway. You should be in church, confessing to your sins, of which Slow Johnny and Rideablot and Franki-boy will give you an exhausting* list.

Andre Jute
* No, I don't mean "exhaustive", I mean exhausting


Can you imagine John telling us how dangerous the US is just before 21 people are murdered and another 42 injured in a mass murder mall shooting over there. Jay has his faults and loves to blame them on Trump. Frank is a basket case who believes he is still a teacher.

Today I was supposed to break 400 miles for a butt freezing year while NASA is telling us this is the hottest winter on record. We'll have to ask the polar bears if they agree with that. The northern Ice pack is the second largest on record and in 1955 when the USS nuclear submarine Skate was at the North Pole it was free of ice. So too it was the following year when the USS Nautilus surfaced at the North Pole. The next year when the Skate returned there was only a thin ice sheet so they surfaced right through it.

On the TV they are predicting temperatures "above normal". You sure as hell can't convince me of that. The Japanese Maple in front of my house has lost all of its leaves. I can't remember it ever doing that before. The Jasmine has stopped growing which is also novel. Normally at this time of year I have to cut it back every three weeks. That must be because NASA sees this as the "hottest winter on record".
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Old February 9th 20, 11:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sun, 9 Feb 2020 11:46:57 -0800 (PST), Tom Kunich
wrote:

On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 9:15:42 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, February 9, 2020 at 4:51:49 PM UTC, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, February 7, 2020 at 2:46:14 PM UTC-8, Tim McNamara wrote:
On Fri, 07 Feb 2020 09:04:13 -0600, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/

My own experience isn't dissimilar- I started racing because I lived
riding so much and training was an excuse to ride bike every day but to
not be some kind of slacker ("I'm training for a race" rather than "I'm
going for a bike ride"). Over the next nine years it brought me to
despise riding a bike. I was so relieved when I stopped racing.

I was going to go for a 30 mile ride this morning but I managed to get 3/4ths of a mile before the wind blew me into the middle of the street twice and was clocking around 360 degrees at 50 mph. They were reporting 40 mph on the peaks but from racing sailboats I have a pretty good grasp of wind speeds. When I turned around and got back I opened the side door of the garage and the gusts were flexing the insulated garage door as long as the side door was open. So much for my Sunday ride.


You shouldn't be riding on a Sunday anyway. You should be in church, confessing to your sins, of which Slow Johnny and Rideablot and Franki-boy will give you an exhausting* list.

Andre Jute
* No, I don't mean "exhaustive", I mean exhausting


Can you imagine John telling us how dangerous the US is just before 21 people are murdered and another 42 injured in a mass murder mall shooting over there. Jay has his faults and loves to blame them on Trump. Frank is a basket case who believes he is still a teacher.


Goodness, Gracious, Sakes alive, you got it wrong again. I just keep
telling you that it is far, far, better to keep your mouth closed and
perhaps be thought a fool than to open it and prove to the world just
how foolish you really are. But you never listen.

You see, it wasn't 21 and 42. The actual numbers are 26 (27 counting
the perpetrator himself) and 57 injured.

And yes, I know, it seems like a minor mistake.... unless you are one
of the 6 or 15 laying there bleeding on the floor.
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Old February 8th 20, 02:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 2/7/2020 10:04 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/


In general, I'm in favor of education instead of ignorance. I don't see
why learning the rules of the road has to suck the joy out of bicycling.
I'm sure riding facing traffic is no more fun than doing things right.

I'm more troubled by Chris Boardman's insinuation in that article that
bicycling is dangerous unless Brits build segregated cattle chutes
everywhere. He should know better.

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Old February 8th 20, 05:49 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 20:01:45 -0500, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 2/7/2020 10:04 AM, AMuzi wrote:
https://cyclingindustry.news/governm...ld-in-england/


In general, I'm in favor of education instead of ignorance. I don't see
why learning the rules of the road has to suck the joy out of bicycling.
I'm sure riding facing traffic is no more fun than doing things right.

I'm more troubled by Chris Boardman's insinuation in that article that
bicycling is dangerous unless Brits build segregated cattle chutes
everywhere. He should know better.


If one builds bicycle lanes in a similar manner as foot paths are
being built in Bangkok with no surface road crossings but bridges over
the roadway (see https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz0ghLc6lrY ) than
I'm sure that they would work fine.... except of course for the
complaints about the "hills", but having the beautiful bike path
terminate on a busy road crossing seems to me to be simply inviting
calamity.

Another point of thought. Do many bicycle accidents occur on the
stretch of road between intersections? In other words, assuming that
the bike lane is successful will it prevent a large portion of bicycle
accidents or only a tiny fraction?

And another thought comes to mind. In the Odense bike light study it
was found that the always on lighting system also reduced the number
of single vehicle crashes. Would bike lanes have a similar effect?
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