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Old November 20th 04, 05:26 PM
B. Lafferty
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.

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Old November 20th 04, 09:36 PM
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein thrombosis
(blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


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Old November 20th 04, 09:36 PM
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein thrombosis
(blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


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Old November 21st 04, 02:05 PM
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"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein
thrombosis (blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


Thanks, Benjo.


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Old November 21st 04, 02:05 PM
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"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein
thrombosis (blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


Thanks, Benjo.


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Old November 21st 04, 02:32 PM
B. Lafferty
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I wonder if this might be the after effect of EPO use. Deep vein
thrombosis, according to my veterinary wife, can be caused by sludging of
the blood (high hematocrit) which causes damage to the vein leading to
leakage. I suppose the issue is whether or not the stress on deep veins
from cycling years using EPO can result in vein damage that can lead to
thrombosis problems a few years later. Furlan was a patient of Ferrari with
Ferrari's records indicating that Furlan's hematocrit went from 38.8 to 51
during a period of six months.

I happened across this when Googling deep vein thrombosis polycythemia. OJ
sends his regards.:-)

http://www.cochranfirm.com/askourdoctors-dvt.html

"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein
thrombosis (blood knots in the leg).

Benjo



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Old November 21st 04, 02:32 PM
B. Lafferty
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I wonder if this might be the after effect of EPO use. Deep vein
thrombosis, according to my veterinary wife, can be caused by sludging of
the blood (high hematocrit) which causes damage to the vein leading to
leakage. I suppose the issue is whether or not the stress on deep veins
from cycling years using EPO can result in vein damage that can lead to
thrombosis problems a few years later. Furlan was a patient of Ferrari with
Ferrari's records indicating that Furlan's hematocrit went from 38.8 to 51
during a period of six months.

I happened across this when Googling deep vein thrombosis polycythemia. OJ
sends his regards.:-)

http://www.cochranfirm.com/askourdoctors-dvt.html

"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
ink.net...
I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein
thrombosis (blood knots in the leg).

Benjo



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Old November 21st 04, 04:59 PM
Sierraman
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"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein

thrombosis
(blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


Do you know what Joane Somarriba almost died from during her career?

thanks,

B-


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Old November 21st 04, 04:59 PM
Sierraman
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"benjo maso" wrote in message
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"B. Lafferty" wrote in message
ink.net...
I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein

thrombosis
(blood knots in the leg).

Benjo


Do you know what Joane Somarriba almost died from during her career?

thanks,

B-


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Old November 21st 04, 07:05 PM
Steven Bornfeld
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B. Lafferty wrote:
I wonder if this might be the after effect of EPO use. Deep vein
thrombosis, according to my veterinary wife, can be caused by sludging of
the blood (high hematocrit) which causes damage to the vein leading to
leakage. I suppose the issue is whether or not the stress on deep veins
from cycling years using EPO can result in vein damage that can lead to
thrombosis problems a few years later. Furlan was a patient of Ferrari with
Ferrari's records indicating that Furlan's hematocrit went from 38.8 to 51
during a period of six months.



This sounds unlikely to me. I think if the blood is thick enough to
cause "sludging" the effects would be immediate and grave. After
discontinuing EPO, the crit probably would return to normal within a
few months at most (IIRC, the average life of an erythrocyte is about
120 days).
OTOH, I would guess that depending upon saddle style, posture, etc.
that years of sitting in the saddle could affect venous return from the
legs. Without getting into gruesome details, I've personally seen some
unpleasant effects. Furthermore, perfectly healthy people can have
problems with leg thromboses in certain circumstances, such as sitting
relatively immobile on a long transatlantic flight. Thrombosis and
emboli are becoming more recognized as a significant risk in situations
like this.

http://tinyurl.com/4l4qf

Steve


I happened across this when Googling deep vein thrombosis polycythemia. OJ
sends his regards.:-)

http://www.cochranfirm.com/askourdoctors-dvt.html

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I've just learned that Ivan Gotti and Georgio Furlan have had health
problems since retiring. Any idea what those problems are?
Thanks.



I don't know about Gotti, but Furlan was suffering from deep vein
thrombosis (blood knots in the leg).

Benjo





 




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