Bad news for Cheerless and co.

Fewer cyclists were killed in London last year compared with '09. No
champers in Chez Cheerless tonight.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


http://road.cc/content/news/35917-cy...-records-began

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Simon Mason

On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

Fewer cyclists were killed in London last year compared with '09. No
champers in Chez Cheerless tonight.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


http://road.cc/content/news/35917-cy...-records-began

Simple at his best.

"the number of cyclists seriously injured went up from 420 to 457, as did the
number of slightly injured - up to 3540 a 9 per cent rise on 2009"

Seriously injured up 9% - slightly injured up 9% - and cycling has become
safer according to the Simple one.

Serious injuries down for ALL modes. Oh - sorry - except one - that is cycling
up 9%.

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities
compared to the previous year?. Yep - that'll be cycling.

All modes of transport had a double figure percentage decrease in slight
accidents - except one. Guess which.

Yep - that'll be cycling - it's 9% reduction was by far the smallest.

Excellent value Simple - well done and thanks for publicising the news.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

On 18/05/2011 19:08, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon
wrote:

Fewer cyclists were killed in London last year compared with '09. No
champers in Chez Cheerless tonight.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


http://road.cc/content/news/35917-cy...-records-began

Simple at his best.

"the number of cyclists seriously injured went up from 420 to 457, as did the
number of slightly injured - up to 3540 a 9 per cent rise on 2009"

Seriously injured up 9% - slightly injured up 9% - and cycling has become
safer according to the Simple one.

Serious injuries down for ALL modes. Oh - sorry - except one - that is cycling
up 9%.

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities
compared to the previous year?. Yep - that'll be cycling.

All modes of transport had a double figure percentage decrease in slight
accidents - except one. Guess which.

Yep - that'll be cycling - it's 9% reduction was by far the smallest.

Excellent value Simple - well done and thanks for publicising the news.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.


You missed this bit:

According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its road
network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was a 15
per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of deaths
per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the corresponding
period. The figures would seem to back up the central idea of the CTC's
Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more cyclists there are on
the roads the safer cycling becomes.

Fred

On 18/05/2011 16:43, Simon Mason wrote:


"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000,

That really is bad news.


--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On May 18, 8:54*pm, The Medway Handyman
wrote:
On 18/05/2011 16:43, Simon Mason wrote:



"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000,

That really is bad news.

--
Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Not for the Chinese toy industry.

On Wed, 18 May 2011 20:23:59 +0100, Fred2 wrote:

On 18/05/2011 19:08, Judith wrote:
On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon
wrote:

Fewer cyclists were killed in London last year compared with '09. No
champers in Chez Cheerless tonight.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."


http://road.cc/content/news/35917-cy...-records-began

Simple at his best.

"the number of cyclists seriously injured went up from 420 to 457, as did the
number of slightly injured - up to 3540 a 9 per cent rise on 2009"

Seriously injured up 9% - slightly injured up 9% - and cycling has become
safer according to the Simple one.

Serious injuries down for ALL modes. Oh - sorry - except one - that is cycling
up 9%.

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities
compared to the previous year?. Yep - that'll be cycling.

All modes of transport had a double figure percentage decrease in slight
accidents - except one. Guess which.

Yep - that'll be cycling - it's 9% reduction was by far the smallest.

Excellent value Simple - well done and thanks for publicising the news.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.


You missed this bit:

According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its road
network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was a 15
per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of deaths
per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the corresponding
period. The figures would seem to back up the central idea of the CTC's
Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more cyclists there are on
the roads the safer cycling becomes.

Fred

Rubbish.

How about the fact that there are something like 70% of cyclists in London are
now wearing cycle helmets and hence cycling has become safer in terms of
severity/number of injuries

If cycling is becoming safer as the number of cyclists goes up - how come the
number of injuries as gone up more than all other forms of transport in the
last year? The number of cyclists has gone up - therefore there should have
been a greater increase in the level of safety compared with other forms of
transport. There wasn't.


--
DfT latest: UK Per billion passenger kilometres
Killed : Pedestrian 26 Cyclist 21
KSI: Pedestrian 319 Cyclist 547
All: Pedestrian 1420 Cyclist 3444

Which is by far the most dangerous?

(Thanks to PhilO for the sig idea)

On May 18, 8:23*pm, Fred2 wrote:
On 18/05/2011 19:08, Judith wrote:





On Wed, 18 May 2011 08:43:08 -0700 (PDT), Simon
wrote:

Fewer cyclists were killed in London last year compared with '09. No
champers in Chez Cheerless tonight.

"According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its
road network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was
a 15 per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of
deaths per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the
corresponding period. The figures would seem to back up the central
idea of the CTC's Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more
cyclists there are on the roads the safer cycling becomes."

http://road.cc/content/news/35917-cy...ondons-roads-n....

Simple at his best.

"the number of cyclists seriously injured went up from 420 to 457, as did the
number of slightly injured - up to 3540 a 9 per cent rise on 2009"

Seriously *injured up 9% - slightly injured up 9% *- and cycling has become
safer according to the Simple one.

Serious injuries down for ALL modes. *Oh - sorry - except one - that is cycling
up 9%.

Which mode of transport had the smallest percentage reduction in fatalities
compared to the previous year?. *Yep - that'll be cycling.

All modes of transport had a double figure percentage decrease in slight
accidents - except one. *Guess which.

Yep - that'll be cycling *- it's 9% reduction was by far the smallest..

Excellent value Simple - well done and thanks for publicising the news.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. *A total disregard for the *well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.

You missed this bit:

According to TfL's figures the number of daily cycle trips on its road
network has risen by 150 per cent since 2000, (in 2010 there was a 15
per cent year on year rise in cycle trips), while the number of deaths
per cycling trip has dropped by 60 per cent over the corresponding
period. The figures would seem to back up the central idea of the CTC's
Safety in Numbers campaign, namely that the more cyclists there are on
the roads the safer cycling becomes.

Fred- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Ah, yes.
Let's ignore the facts we don't like that blow our arguments out of
the water and concentrate solely on the bits that *seem* to make
cycling look more dangerous, year on year. Anyone can see cycling is
super safe - twice as may are killed by stabbing each year, but we
don't all go around in stab vests.

--
Simon Mason

On Wed, 18 May 2011 23:50:00 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

snip
..
Let's ignore the facts we don't like that blow our arguments out of
the water and concentrate solely on the bits that *seem* to make
cycling look more dangerous, year on year. Anyone can see cycling is
super safe - twice as may are killed by stabbing each year, but we
don't all go around in stab vests.



You are of course quite correct in your Simple little way:

A 9% increase in the number of serious injuries shows that cycling is getting
safer day by day - and that is with something like 70% of London cyclists
wearing helmets - or did the Daily Mail tell you that it was only 16%?


As I say, Simple really.


--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.