Question for Simon Mason

On 14/01/2012 10:43, JNugent wrote:
On 14/01/2012 10:31, Simon Mason wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:51 am, wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

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On Jan 14, 9:32 am, wrote:





"Simon Mason" wrote in message

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On Jan 13, 9:43 pm, wrote:

On Jan 12, 6:54 pm, wrote:

On Jan 12, 5:31 pm, "Mr wrote:

"Simon wrote in message

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On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, "Paul -
wrote:
Mr Benn wrote:
"Mr. wrote in message
...

What is the make and model of your alcohol meter? The levels
you
published are meaningless without details of how they were
measured.

Can someone else ask for me please. I'm in Mason's killfile.

Sounds a reasonable question to me ..

--
Paul - xxx

Sorry - Mr Benn wanted me to put him in my killfile, so I don't
see
why I should engage with him when it suits him.
He can compare the item in my photos with an alcohol meter search
on
e-
bay - I am not going to do the donkey work for him.

I also asked you to jump off a cliff.

Your alcohol meter looks like this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-6-LCD-Di...h-Tester-3-AAA...


9.99 + 1 shipping from Hong Kong.

Do you really expect to get anything remotely accurate at that
price?

The seller indicates an accuracy of 10% , seems better than assesment
by eye colour to me. How much better could you get for 100?
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The hot wire principle is very basic and simple.
Anyone who pays 500 quid for one is as foolish as someone who buys a
3000 Rolex that does not have the accuracy of a 30 Casio Waveceptor.-
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Although I splashed out 700 on this pair.
Still more accurate than any Rolex though.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/watches.jpg

Doesn't this statement:

Anyone who pays 500 quid for one is as foolish as someone who buys a

3000 Rolex that does not have the accuracy of a 30 Casio Waveceptor

rather contradict this one:

Although I splashed out 700 on this pair.
Still more accurate than any Rolex though.

Making a liar and a fool of yourself again.- Hide quoted text -

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Pray tell how a mechanical Rolex can be more accurate than a pair of
atomic clock watches?
I am all ears.

I think you are doing your usual trick and ignoring what is actually
said in
favour of what you want to believe. Where in my post did I say that a
Rolex
is more accurate? Nowhere.
What I was questioning was why would you spend out £700 on watches?
After
all, this whole thread is about you saving money by buying crap.-
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You will have to learn to phrase your insults in a less confusing way
in that case.
Why did I spend £700 on watches? I got a £8000 bonus one year and
didn't need anymore bikes, that's why.
And the scientist in me loves the concept of radio controlled watches
which is why I have worn one for 18 years.

The *scientist* in you?

Who is he?



--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On Jan 13, 9:43*pm, wrote:
On Jan 12, 6:54*pm, thirty-six wrote:









On Jan 12, 5:31*pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message

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On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
Mr Benn wrote:
"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
...

What is the make and model of your alcohol meter? *The levels you
published are meaningless without details of how they were measured.

Can someone else ask for me please. *I'm in Mason's killfile.

Sounds a reasonable question to me ..

--
Paul - xxx

Sorry - Mr Benn wanted me to put him in my killfile, so I don't see
why I should engage with him when it suits him.
He can compare the item in my photos with an alcohol meter search on e-
bay - I am not going to do the donkey work for him.

I also asked you to jump off a cliff.

Your alcohol meter looks like this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-6-LCD-Di...h-Tester-3-AAA....

£9.99 + £1 shipping from Hong Kong.

Do you really expect to get anything remotely accurate at that price?

The seller indicates an accuracy of 10% , seems better than assesment
by eye colour to me. * How much better could you get for £100?
Anything?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The hot wire principle is very basic and simple.
Anyone who pays £500 quid for one is as foolish as someone who buys a
£3000 Rolex that does not have the accuracy of a £30 Casio Waveceptor..

Are you saying it is a cheap device by nature? Is there any method
of calibration or testing that can be performed?

On Jan 14, 7:34*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On Jan 13, 11:01*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"









wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:39:42 -0000, "Mr. Benn" wrote:
"Part Timer" *wrote in ...

On 12/01/2012 13:07, Mr. Benn wrote:
What is the make and model of your alcohol meter? The levels you
published are meaningless without details of how they were measured.

First one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250920133731

Second one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290650716886
=============================================

The first one is £6.99 delivered.

The second one (executive edition) is £32 delivered.

Both quality items, carefully calibrated in China.

In other words, rubbish.

Depends whether your purpose is evidential or simply intellectual
curiosity. In the latter case even if accurate only to +/- 20% the
purpose of the experiment is still fulfilled.

Guy
--
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.- Hide quoted text -

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The photographs of the progress of my intoxication is all the proof
that I need.
I am totally happy with the accuracy of the device and would recommend
it to anyone.

--
Simon Mason

I beleive it is quite clear that it does show that although one can be
in a condition which makes cognition and motive control difficult, one
may still be alcohol free after a full nights kip. I think if it
reads zero, that's probably accurate, as long as there is evidence
that it does actually register in the accepted range, which for your
instrument, it has. I still wonder about the possibility of
callibration.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 23:51:11 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

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Although I splashed out £700 on this pair.
Still more accurate than any Rolex though.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/watches.jpg


I wonder why so many of the psycholists here have to tell us how much they have spent on this thing or that thing.

I think it must be some sort of insecurity.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:08:59 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:14*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:

The photographs of the progress of my intoxication is all the proof
that I need.
I am totally happy with the accuracy of the device and would recommend
it to anyone.

It seems perfectly reasonable as a guide. I wouldn't want to drive if
I were borderline on that device. But with a very low reading I reckon
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As I cycle to work I was only interested in how fast I got rid of 24
units of alcohol out of curiosity, not out of fear of getting nabbed
for drink driving.
It agrees with me feeling totally sober at 0500 when I get up for
work.



It would be a pity if security at BP Chemicals, Saltend, Hull carried out a
random breath test on you in the next couple of weeks wouldn't it?

Letter in its way.

On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 10:48:39 -0000, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

On Jan 13, 11:01 pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:


Depends whether your purpose is evidential or simply intellectual
curiosity. In the latter case even if accurate only to +/- 20% the
purpose of the experiment is still fulfilled.

Mine was out of curiousity since I do not drive to work and so fear no
licence ban.




....... or losing your job ?

"Judith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 14 Jan 2012 00:08:59 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Jan 14, 8:14 am, Bertie Wooster wrote:

The photographs of the progress of my intoxication is all the proof
that I need.
I am totally happy with the accuracy of the device and would recommend
it to anyone.

It seems perfectly reasonable as a guide. I wouldn't want to drive if
I were borderline on that device. But with a very low reading I reckon
it would be safe.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


As I cycle to work I was only interested in how fast I got rid of 24
units of alcohol out of curiosity, not out of fear of getting nabbed
for drink driving.
It agrees with me feeling totally sober at 0500 when I get up for
work.



It would be a pity if security at BP Chemicals, Saltend, Hull carried out a
random breath test on you in the next couple of weeks wouldn't it?

Letter in its way.
=====================================

I wonder if BP use the same Chinese breathalyser than Mason bought for a
tenner?

Do you know when and where the BP shareholder meeting is being held this
year? I may go along for a laugh if it's in London. That's only half an
hour away on the train and I can always meet up with some people afterwards
for a drink to celebrate.

On Jan 14, 8:08*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On Jan 14, 8:14*am, Bertie Wooster wrote:



The photographs of the progress of my intoxication is all the proof
that I need.
I am totally happy with the accuracy of the device and would recommend
it to anyone.

It seems perfectly reasonable as a guide. I wouldn't want to drive if
I were borderline on that device. But with a very low reading I reckon
it would be safe.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

As I cycle to work I was only interested in how fast I got rid of 24
units of alcohol out of curiosity, not out of fear of getting nabbed
for drink driving.

I remember that it was thought that someone who was exercising would
oxidise the alcohol quicker. I dont have a bias either way but wonder
whether simply moving my legs while sitting (as an alternative to
walking) would have a demonstrable effect with the breath tester in a
few hours.

It agrees with me feeling totally sober at 0500 when I get up for
work.

--

Simon Mason

On Jan 14, 10:31*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On Jan 14, 9:51*am, "Partac" wrote:









"Simon Mason" *wrote in message

...

On Jan 14, 9:32 am, "Partac" wrote:

"Simon Mason" *wrote in message

....

On Jan 13, 9:43 pm, wrote:

On Jan 12, 6:54 pm, thirty-six wrote:

On Jan 12, 5:31 pm, "Mr Benn" wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote in message

...

On Jan 12, 4:37 pm, "Paul - xxx"
wrote:
Mr Benn wrote:
"Mr. Benn" wrote in message
...

What is the make and model of your alcohol meter? *The levels
you
published are meaningless without details of how they were
measured.

Can someone else ask for me please. *I'm in Mason's killfile.

Sounds a reasonable question to me ..

--
Paul - xxx

Sorry - Mr Benn wanted me to put him in my killfile, so I don't
see
why I should engage with him when it suits him.
He can compare the item in my photos with an alcohol meter search
on
e-
bay - I am not going to do the donkey work for him.

I also asked you to jump off a cliff.

Your alcohol meter looks like this one:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-6-LCD-Di...h-Tester-3-AAA...

9.99 + 1 shipping from Hong Kong.

Do you really expect to get anything remotely accurate at that
price?

The seller indicates an accuracy of 10% , seems better than assesment
by eye colour to me. * How much better could you get for 100?
Anything?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The hot wire principle is very basic and simple.
Anyone who pays 500 quid for one is as foolish as someone who buys a
3000 Rolex that does not have the accuracy of a 30 Casio Waveceptor..-
Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Although I splashed out 700 on this pair.
Still more accurate than any Rolex though.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/watches.jpg

Doesn't this statement:

Anyone who pays 500 quid for one is as foolish as someone who buys a

3000 Rolex that does not have the accuracy of a 30 Casio Waveceptor

rather contradict this one:

Although I splashed out 700 on this pair.
Still more accurate than any Rolex though.

Making a liar and a fool of yourself again.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Pray tell how a mechanical Rolex can be more accurate than a pair of
atomic clock watches?
I am all ears.

I think you are doing your usual trick and ignoring what is actually said in
favour of what you want to believe. Where in my post did I say that a Rolex
is more accurate? Nowhere.
What I was questioning was why would you spend out £700 on watches? After
all, this whole thread is about you saving money by buying crap.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

You will have to learn to phrase your insults in a less confusing way
in that case.
Why did I spend £700 on watches? I got a £8000 bonus one year and
didn't need anymore bikes, that's why.
And the scientist in me loves the concept of radio controlled watches
which is why I have worn one for 18 years.

So how long does the battery last in the RC watch?

On Jan 14, 7:34*am, Simon Mason wrote:
On Jan 13, 11:01*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"









wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2012 21:39:42 -0000, "Mr. Benn" wrote:
"Part Timer" *wrote in ...

On 12/01/2012 13:07, Mr. Benn wrote:
What is the make and model of your alcohol meter? The levels you
published are meaningless without details of how they were measured.

First one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250920133731

Second one:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290650716886
=============================================

The first one is £6.99 delivered.

The second one (executive edition) is £32 delivered.

Both quality items, carefully calibrated in China.

In other words, rubbish.

Depends whether your purpose is evidential or simply intellectual
curiosity. In the latter case even if accurate only to +/- 20% the
purpose of the experiment is still fulfilled.

Guy
--
Guy Chapman,http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk
The usenet price promise: all opinions are guaranteed
to be worth at least what you paid for them.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The photographs of the progress of my intoxication is all the proof
that I need.
I am totally happy with the accuracy of the device and would recommend
it to anyone.

I was hoping it was going to be under £25, I could afford that for
what would mostly be a plaything. I may certainly put it to
consideration for purchase if it shows reliability and is £25 or less.