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Tom Kunich wrote: Gee, remember Oscar Savilla beating Lance? no. OK, he had a great day. That's why he lost to LeMond. Oh, I keep forgetting that Oscar rode faster than Lance because Lance had that damn Aero helmet. Wait, it was the aero bars that won LeMond's Tour and not Fignon bobbing up and down and throwing the bike back and forth never able to get on top of the gear he had. moron, sevilla never beat lance in a TT. you're thinking of botero. |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
The truth is that it takes quite a bit of effort to gain an advantage from aero equipment Oh yeah, it's a lot of effort to slap on some aero wheels instead of ones with box section rim, to choose an aerodynamically designed frame instead of one made with round tubes, to put on a skinsuit instead of a jersey and shorts, etc. Heck, it even takes very little effort to use aerobars, assuming you don't change anything else about your position except where you place your arms. and the gain is very small unless you're pretty fast to begin with We've already been over this: slower riders actually benefit more from reducing their aerodynamic drag. and those gains are very easily lost to wiggling and sitting up and all those sorts of things that slower riders do. And so what if they are? Except perhaps for the use of aerobars, there's essentially no interaction between how smooth somebody is and the equipment they ride, so to bring such things into the discussion is simply a red herring. All that glitters isn't gold - some of it is metal flakes in the horse turds. I assume that you're talking about your posts? Andy Coggan |
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Tom Kunich wrote: And streamlined recumbents hold the record of 80.55 mph. That's 262% of the UCI new rules record. The record is 80.26kph compared to 49.7kph... making it 161%. And how does this prove that aerodynamics does not matter? |
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Ron Ruff wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote: And streamlined recumbents hold the record of 80.55 mph. That's 262% of the UCI new rules record. The record is 80.26kph compared to 49.7kph... making it 161%. The record is 80.55 MPH. http://suewidemark.com/speedchallenge.htm And how does this prove that aerodynamics does not matter? Since he did this on a 60 lb faired recumbent does it prove that weight doesn't matter? |
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Tom Kunich wrote: The record is 80.55 MPH. http://suewidemark.com/speedchallenge.htm That isn't the *hour* record. The hour record is 80.26kph. Since he did this on a 60 lb faired recumbent does it prove that weight doesn't matter? Yes. |
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"Tom Kunich" wrote in message ups.com... Ron Ruff wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: And streamlined recumbents hold the record of 80.55 mph. That's 262% of the UCI new rules record. The record is 80.26kph compared to 49.7kph... making it 161%. The record is 80.55 MPH. http://suewidemark.com/speedchallenge.htm And how does this prove that aerodynamics does not matter? Since he did this on a 60 lb faired recumbent does it prove that weight doesn't matter? From what I can find, HPV flying 200m record 81.00 mph / 130.36 kph Standard bike flying 200m record 45.35 mph / 72.98 kph HPV 177% faster HPV standing start hour record 51.33 mph / 82.60 kph Standard* bike hour record 34.36 mph / 55.29 kph HPV 149% faster *For this example I am considering Rominger's record as the recognized one because it is still using equipment allowable in all events except the retro hour. |
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Tom Kunich wrote: So your position is that these changes will make a difference in the time of a beginning time trialist? Dumbass - Even beginners should start to learn to do things the right way. That way they don't have to unlearn, then relearn. If a rider aspires to become good at TTs, then he/she should do some training in the aero position. Duh. thanks, K. Gringioni. |
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Kurgan Gringioni wrote:
If a rider aspires to become good at TTs, then he/she should do some training in the aero position. I seem to recall reading somewhere that when Basso first came to CSC Riis made him ride his TT bike as frequently as was practical. Perhaps Rasmussen could have done with a bit of Riis's help. |
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