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Old September 29th 09, 06:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_3_]
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Default Disabled cyclists.

There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.

Firstly railway platforms and concourses. A road legal 8mpg mobility
scooter is allowed to travel at 4mph in such places, as is a
wheelchair capable of travelling at faster than 4mph, but a disabled
cyclist is not. 4mph is a brisk walking pace.

Similarly considerations apply to pavements and shopping centres.
Disabled people who wish to enjoy a high degree of mobility have
virtually no other option but to use a car in conjunction with a
wheelchair but what if for some reason they cannot drive or be driven
but can still use a bicycle? Why are they permitted on some pavements
but not others but wheelchairs can travel on all of them?

There are numerous medical conditions which can favour sitting on a
saddle and pedalling instead of walking and yet this is not recognised
by various authorities and corporations but is by some doctors.

Doug.

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Old September 29th 09, 08:10 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
sandy58
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Default Disabled cyclists.

On Sep 29, 6:54*am, Doug wrote:
There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.

Firstly railway platforms and concourses. A road legal 8mpg mobility
scooter is allowed to travel at 4mph in such places, as is a
wheelchair capable of travelling at faster than 4mph, but a disabled
cyclist is not. 4mph is a brisk walking pace.

Similarly considerations apply to pavements and shopping centres.
Disabled people who wish to enjoy a high degree of mobility have
virtually no other option but to use a car in conjunction with a
wheelchair but what if for some reason they cannot drive or be driven
but can still use a bicycle? Why are they permitted on some pavements
but not others but wheelchairs can travel on all of them?

There are numerous medical conditions which can favour sitting on a
saddle and pedalling instead of walking and yet this is not recognised
by various authorities and corporations but is by some doctors.

Doug.


......and the point is???? Try alt.legless-bikers.org. Loads of
"legless" drivers caught every weekend so why leave bikers out?
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Old September 29th 09, 08:47 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
nightjar
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Default Disabled cyclists.


"Doug" wrote in message
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There are numerous medical conditions which can favour sitting on a
saddle and pedalling instead of walking and yet this is not recognised
by various authorities and corporations but is by some doctors.


Such as? I was specifically advised not to cycle when I had a suspected
heart attack, although using an exercise bicycle, which puts no stress on
the chest muscles, was encouraged.

Colin Bignell


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Old September 29th 09, 09:14 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Paul - xxx[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclists.

Doug wrote:

There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.



I can't recall any disability where one can't walk or drive a car, but
where one can ride a bike .. could you enlighten us please?

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Old September 29th 09, 09:29 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Brimstone
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Default Disabled cyclists.

"Doug" wrote in message
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There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.

The only person rambling Doug has been you. Everyone else has been trying to
understand what you're trying to achieve.

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Old September 29th 09, 09:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
BrianW[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclists.

On 29 Sep, 06:54, Doug wrote:
There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.


I can summerise (sic) it much more quickly:

"I, Doug Bollen, of censored Road, Catford, should be able to do
whatever I like, whenever and wherever I like. The rest of you can
lump it".

There, that's better.
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Old September 29th 09, 10:13 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Theodore
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Default Disabled cyclists.

On Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:40:43 -0700 (PDT), BrianW
wrote:

On 29 Sep, 06:54, Doug wrote:
There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.


I can summerise (sic) it much more quickly:

"I, Doug Bollen, of censored Road, Catford, should be able to do
whatever I like, whenever and wherever I like. The rest of you can
lump it".


+ pay for it please.

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Old September 29th 09, 10:18 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
bartc
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Default Disabled cyclists.


"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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Doug wrote:

There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists are
discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to quickly
summerise.



I can't recall any disability where one can't walk or drive a car, but
where one can ride a bike .. could you enlighten us please?


I've had a condition where it was a lot less painful to cycle, than to walk
(once I'd managed to get on), although I could cope with walking short
distances.

There could be any number of reasons why such a person can't or won't drive
a car.

--
Bartc

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Old September 29th 09, 10:56 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Paul - xxx[_2_]
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Default Disabled cyclists.

bartc wrote:


"Paul - xxx" wrote in message
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Doug wrote:

There has been rambling discussions about how disabled cyclists
are discriminated against or not in law so now I would like to
quickly summerise.



I can't recall any disability where one can't walk or drive a car,
but where one can ride a bike .. could you enlighten us please?


I've had a condition where it was a lot less painful to cycle, than
to walk (once I'd managed to get on), although I could cope with
walking short distances.


Fair do's I wasn't aware of any, so doubted whether it's something that
will benefit many people.

There could be any number of reasons why such a person can't or won't
drive a car.


I know there are 'reasons', such as one simply prefers (excuses?) not
to use a car, I was asking Doug for disabilities that made it easier to
ride than walk or drive as I can't think of any and doubt whether there
are vast numbers as if there were I think I may have heard of them.

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Old September 29th 09, 11:05 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Keitht
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Default Disabled cyclists.

nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...
....
There are numerous medical conditions which can favour sitting on a
saddle and pedalling instead of walking and yet this is not recognised
by various authorities and corporations but is by some doctors.


Such as? I was specifically advised not to cycle when I had a suspected
heart attack, although using an exercise bicycle, which puts no stress on
the chest muscles, was encouraged.

Colin Bignell


Did you ask 'Why'?

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