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Old March 29th 20, 07:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Association of British Nutters is at it again.

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A motoring group today sparked a row by advising people not to cycle during the coronavirus outbreak in case they fell off and needed medical help. It followed cycling groups promoting bike use for exercise, food shopping and essential commuting during the lockdown.

They pointed out that it could also cut down public transport use, which is being discouraged.

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted: “You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’re only allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or running..

“Best to avoid cycling in case you fall off and require medical assistance.”

Mr Biggs added in a further tweet: “I like cycling (e-bike), but in extraordinary times I think any hazardous activity should be avoided unless absolutely essential. So car on drive, bike in garage!”

However, cycle campaigners said the risks were low and had been reduced by the roads being quieter.

Ian Maxwell, of Spokes, the Lothian cycle campaign, said: "The risks of cycling at the moment are greatly reduced because there is less traffic on the roads.

“It is a splendid way to keep fit without risk of catching the virus.

“Shopping is just as easy on a bike and if you don't have a pannier or rack, the bike shops are still open.

“Let's hope many more people get the chance to try cycling on our quiet streets.

“We might as well encourage this healthy activity at a time when so much is not possible." Campaigners Cycling UK said riding was “safe and enjoyable”.

Head of development Scotland Suzanne Forup said: “Cycling is playing a vital role in allowing people to make essential journeys, and to stay fit and healthy both mentally and physically.

“Cycling is a quick and convenient mode of transport for people who need to travel, like NHS staff and key workers cycling to work and people picking up essential supplies.

“Indeed, Cycling UK is encouraging all who can to consider cycling for essential journeys, to reduce the number of people on public transport.

“Cycling is also a safe and enjoyable way to get your daily exercise.”

John Donnelly, co-convener of GoBike, the Strathclyde Cycle Campaign, said: “There are many people who used their bikes to get their shopping before the crisis began.

“As long as you are not panic buying toilet rolls, many people would be able to get a shopping home by bike.

“Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walking or driving.

“Cycling is a safe and practical means of getting around in these difficult times.”

‘You can carry a surprising amount of shopping’

The national development agency Cycling Scotland said you could reach the shops and get exercise by using a bike.

Its spokesperson said: “You can carry a surprising amount of shopping in a rucksack, or bike panniers if you have them.

“If you can ride a bike and get to your local shop confidently, travelling by bike can be a great option for essential journeys - with the added benefits of fresh air and exercise.

“Cycling is generally a low-risk activity, but with our emergency services under pressure it’s important we reduce all risk.

“Everyone should stay local, not ride in groups, cycle on routes well within their ability level and stay at least two metres from other people.”

Scottish Labour transport spokesman Colin Smyth said: “I think Mr Biggs would be surprised how much shopping he could get on a bike, which is great way of exercising in a way that maintains social distancing, especially at a time our roads are quieter.

“However, he’ll also know the significant cost to the NHS of car accidents, including those where cyclists are the victims, so it’s good he is encouraging less car use.”

Scottish Conservatives transport spokesman Dean Lockhart said: ‘Cycling is a great way to get exercise and you can easily do it in a way that involves the appropriate level of social distancing.

“If you have a basket on your bike, I would imagine you can pick up a few essential items if you really need to.

“If you are new to cycling however, it will be important to get plenty of practice in a safe area before venturing onto the roads.

The Scottish Government urged essential commuters to consider cycling.

A spokesperson for its Transport Scotland agency said: “Cycling is fine as your one permitted outdoor exercise each day, providing you observe social distancing or are cycling as part of your household group.

“This should be done in your local area, as travelling somewhere to ride back would not be deemed as essential travel.

“Cycling is also encouraged as a method of travelling to work - provided you are an essential worker and are travelling for that purpose.”

The IAM RoadSmart motoring group warned drivers not to be tempted to speed up on quieter streets.

Policy and research director Neil Greig said: “It seems some people still find it hard to give up the eternal car versus bicycle debate, even in times of national emergency.

“We are all in this together and motorised transport is saving lives and keeping us fed every day.

“History will almost certainly show accidents will go down during this time of recession as traffic levels fall.

“The main reduction in car use is in commuting, which will almost certainly pick up again when we finally get back to work as nothing will have changed to make public transport more attractive or cyclist feel safer.

“For now, people will use the mode of transport that fits their needs, and for some that may be the bike, on foot, or the car for many in the suburbs who have to do long trips to major supermarkets.

“Some drivers may be tempted to speed up on quiet roads but it will always only be a very small selfish minority who will speed excessively.

“Regrettably, it seems their attitudes cannot even be shifted by a pandemic.”

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Old March 29th 20, 08:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walkingor driving.

On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.

He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what I
can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.
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Old March 29th 20, 08:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:13:14 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.

He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what I
can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.


Here he is in the Drivers Union dream team with Bongo Bongo Bloom.

https://kspeat.wixsite.com/driversunion/the-team



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Old March 29th 20, 08:55 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kerr-Mudd,John[_2_]
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walking or driving.

On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:31:19 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:13:14 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to

local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’

re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.

He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what

I

can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.


Here he is in the Drivers Union dream team with Bongo Bongo Bloom.

https://kspeat.wixsite.com/driversunion/the-team

What a bunch!



--
Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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Old March 29th 20, 10:17 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Kelly[_2_]
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walking or driving.

Simon Mason wrote:

Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:
Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted: "You can't do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.
You're only allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or running. Best to avoid cycling in case you fall off and require medical assistance."


Mr. Paul Biggs says: "The Drivers Union has been formed to ... counter
the obstruction of the arteries of the economy - roads, carrying the
lifeblood of the economy - drivers."

Our roads are often highly congested and contested between roadway
users. It even seems that sometimes the roadway is a battle ground for
social domination, rather than just access to physical space. Most
drivers have strong feelings about cyclist's holding up traffic and
they anger at cyclist rule breaking. Basically, the more people
dislike cyclists, the more they want to regulate and helmet them as a
way to control them and make them behave. The last thing they want to
do is actually give cyclists some basic safe infrastructure (which
might mean giving up some precious road.)

I wonder if the Drivers Union aren't just a little concerned that they
will lose ground to the cyclists if they enjoy the freedom of the
roads, during this virus lockdown, more than they can with their
grounded motor vehicles.
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Old March 30th 20, 01:51 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walkingor driving.

On 29/03/2020 20:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.

He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what I
can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.


How much more can you fit into the boot and onto the back seat and rear
footwell of your Hillman Minx?

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Old March 30th 20, 02:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bret Cahill
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walking or driving.

I've been cycling out in the dirt field roads where no one bothers you.

On the down side I've been really hungry.
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Old March 30th 20, 09:58 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walkingor driving.

On 30/03/2020 01:51, JNugent wrote:
On 29/03/2020 20:13, TMS320 wrote:
On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.


He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what
I can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.


How much more can you fit into the boot and onto the back seat and rear
footwell of your Hillman Minx?


I expect we could have panic bought more toilet rolls.
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Old March 30th 20, 05:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_6_]
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Default Per million miles travelled, there are more injuries from walkingor driving.

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:55:56 PM UTC+1, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 19:31:19 GMT, Simon Mason
wrote:

On Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 8:13:14 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:
On 29/03/2020 19:55, Simon Mason wrote:
Association of British Nutters is at it again.

QUOTE:

Association of British Drivers (ABD) director Paul Biggs tweeted:
“You can’t do much shopping on a bike - I am walking to

local shops
for essentials, not driving to large supermarkets.“You’

re only
allowed out once a day for personal exercise - bike, walking or
running.
He definitely doesn't have a clue. When walking I can only carry what

I

can put in a backpack. When cycling I can add two panniers, each of
which can take more weight than my back will cope with.


Here he is in the Drivers Union dream team with Bongo Bongo Bloom.

https://kspeat.wixsite.com/driversunion/the-team

What a bunch!


The head of the "Drivers Union" passed away in 2017. Keith Peat kept a sick and hateful page of dead cyclists each year.

https://kspeat.wixsite.com/driversun...ing-death-2015

 




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