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Old September 18th 14, 01:22 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Old September 18th 14, 02:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Old September 18th 14, 02:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 18/09/2014 10:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...g-cyclist.html


Silly cop. But refreshing to listen to a civil exchange between cop and
citizen. Very English.
While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I
found this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2
Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being
hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.
PH


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Old September 18th 14, 06:25 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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What an asshole this Peter Howard is. No wonder he's known as "little Howie" on account of being insignificant.

Andre Jute

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:30:48 PM UTC+1, Peter Howard wrote:
On 18/09/2014 10:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...g-cyclist.html






Silly cop. But refreshing to listen to a civil exchange between cop and

citizen. Very English.

While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I

found this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html

or:

http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2

Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being

hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.

PH


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Old September 19th 14, 01:21 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 19/09/2014 3:25 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
What an asshole this Peter Howard is. No wonder he's known as "little Howie" on account of being insignificant.

Andre Jute

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:30:48 PM UTC+1, Peter Howard wrote:
On 18/09/2014 10:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...g-cyclist.html






Silly cop. But refreshing to listen to a civil exchange between cop and

citizen. Very English.

While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I

found this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html

or:

http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2

Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being

hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.

PH



Do **** off little Jutieborg. Can't you see that grown-ups are trying to
talk here?
PH
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Old September 19th 14, 02:22 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 23:30:48 +1000, Peter Howard
wrote:

While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I
found this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html
or:
http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2
Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being
hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.
PH


That's understandable. If you look at period paintings and
descriptions of various battles, you might notice that knights on
horseback usually wore helmets, but those that were unhorsed, either
opened their visors, or removed the helmet.
https://www.google.com/search?q=richard+iii+at+bosworth&tbm=isch
Here's a modern version of Richard III at Bosworth:
http://www.studio88.co.uk/acatalog/Richard_III_at_the_Battle_of_Bosworth_oil_painting .html
"The original painting in its frame, next to Graham Turner's armor
which is based on the tomb effigy of Ralph Fitzherbert, c. 1483."

The problem is that on horseback, the only thing the knight could do
was attack in the forward direction because that's all he could see
through the slit or holes in the helmet. However, once unhorsed, he
had to defend himself from all directions while being somewhat
immobile due to the weight of the armor[1]. Better visibility is a
major asset for defense, so little wonder Richard III may have removed
his helmet.


[1] There is some questions as to whether the knight really was
immobile due to the weight of the armor:
http://www.sarahwoodbury.com/medieval-swords-and-armor-were-not-heavy/
Of course, everything we know is wrong:
http://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/aams/hd_aams.htm



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Old September 19th 14, 02:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Old September 19th 14, 03:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Andre Jute wrote:
What an asshole this Peter Howard is. No wonder he's known as "little
Howie" on account of being insignificant.

Andre Jute

On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:30:48 PM UTC+1, Peter Howard wrote:
On 18/09/2014 10:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...g-cyclist.html






Silly cop. But refreshing to listen to a civil exchange between cop and

citizen. Very English.

While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I

found this:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html

or:

http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2

Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being

hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.

PH


Peter's post appeared to be perfectly civil and entertaining, unlike your
unprovoked spew of bile.
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Old September 19th 14, 04:09 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Thursday, September 18, 2014 10:05:27 PM UTC-4, Ralph Barone wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:

What an asshole this Peter Howard is. No wonder he's known as "little


Howie" on account of being insignificant.




Andre Jute




On Thursday, September 18, 2014 2:30:48 PM UTC+1, Peter Howard wrote:


On 18/09/2014 10:22 PM, AMuzi wrote:








http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...g-cyclist.html












Silly cop. But refreshing to listen to a civil exchange between cop and




citizen. Very English.




While idly glancing at the other links on that Telegraph news site I




found this:




http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/1...in-battle.html




or:




http://tinyurl.com/mr755m2




Which suggests that Richard III wasn't wearing a helmet while being




hacked to death on Bosworth Field. So there, you anti helmet zealots.




PH




Peter's post appeared to be perfectly civil and entertaining, unlike your

unprovoked spew of bile.


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Old September 19th 14, 04:14 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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