Cyclinger breaks the law for safety reasons?

On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross from
an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve back
across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we have
no idea what was going through her mind.

But perhaps the cylist entered the motorway vertically, directly into
the offside overtaking lane from an overbridge?

But still, thanks for coming along to try to defend the cyclist. I knew
you would. We all did.

....but it's so much easier for you to post snide remarks.

On 15:29 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross from
an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve back
across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we have
no idea what was going through her mind.

None of that makes any difference because she shouldn't be on the motorway at
all. Nor should she cut across a car in the way she did, no matter what the
road.

On 07/03/2020 16:58, Pamela wrote:
On 15:29 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12ÂÂ* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross from
an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve back
across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we have
no idea what was going through her mind.

None of that makes any difference because she shouldn't be on the motorway at
all.

Of course. But you write as though you think the person was acting in
some sort of calm, habitual manner.

Nor should she cut across a car in the way she did, no matter what the
road.

Where it is legal to cross a fast two lane trunk road, the technique
doesn't scale up from crossing a 30mph residential road. People don't
realise this.

On 07/03/2020 15:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we have
no idea what was going through her mind.

What has any of that got to do with it?

But perhaps the cylist entered the motorway vertically, directly into
the offside overtaking lane from an overbridge?

But still, thanks for coming along to try to defend the cyclist. I
knew you would. We all did.

...but it's so much easier for you to post snide remarks.

You're the one trying to "explain" that there is an innocent reason for
the danger the cyclist caused.

On 07/03/2020 23:34, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Pamela wrote:
On 15:12 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a
deadly accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

It's a split second decision whether a motorist should hit the
cyclist or either swerve and hit another car risking a pile up. The
default action for on a busy motorway might be to hit the cyclist if
there isn't time to assess othe roptions. I know I would.

Never underestimate the stupidity of the cyclist.



Pounder is considered the most disgusting animal in the ocean, if not on
earth. The eel-shaped creature uses four pairs of thin sensory tentacles
surrounding its mouth to find food—including carcasses of much larger
animals.

On 21:46 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 said:

On 07/03/2020 16:58, Pamela wrote:
On 15:29 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12ÂÂ* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful
wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a
deadly accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/11111182/idiot-cyclist-
ride-across-entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we
have no idea what was going through her mind.

None of that makes any difference because she shouldn't be on the
motorway at all.

Of course. But you write as though you think the person was acting in
some sort of calm, habitual manner.

That describes the video exactly. Have you actually seen it? The cyclist
casually and without a backward glance cuts across the car taking the
video.

Nor should she cut across a car in the way she did, no matter what the
road.

Where it is legal to cross a fast two lane trunk road, the technique
doesn't scale up from crossing a 30mph residential road. People don't
realise this.

The cyclist cuts across a motorway, not a dual carriageway. The title
says "M60" plain and simple. Why not take a look.

On 04:25 8 Mar 2020, JNugent said:
On 07/03/2020 15:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid
a deadly accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we
have no idea what was going through her mind.

What has any of that got to do with it?

TMS320 appears to believe the video, which he obviously hasn't seen, shows a
dual carriageway.

Maybe commenting about things which haven't been seen is the standard of
discussion here.

On 08/03/2020 04:25, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 15:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we
have no idea what was going through her mind.

What has any of that got to do with it?

It has everything to do with your attitude.

But perhaps the cylist entered the motorway vertically, directly into
the offside overtaking lane from an overbridge?
Â*
But still, thanks for coming along to try to defend the cyclist. I
knew you would. We all did.

...but it's so much easier for you to post snide remarks.

You're the one trying to "explain" that there is an innocent reason for
the danger the cyclist caused.

No, I was giving a more accurate description of the road layout.

On 08/03/2020 12:12, Pamela wrote:
On 21:46 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 said:

On 07/03/2020 16:58, Pamela wrote:
On 15:29 7 Mar 2020, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12ÂÂÂ* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful
wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a
deadly accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/11111182/idiot-cyclist-
ride-across-entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply to
them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we
have no idea what was going through her mind.

None of that makes any difference because she shouldn't be on the
motorway at all.

Of course. But you write as though you think the person was acting in
some sort of calm, habitual manner.

That describes the video exactly. Have you actually seen it?

I have.

The cyclist
casually and without a backward glance cuts across the car taking the
video.

Once committed to such an error would an outward display of panic help?

Nor should she cut across a car in the way she did, no matter what the
road.

Where it is legal to cross a fast two lane trunk road, the technique
doesn't scale up from crossing a 30mph residential road. People don't
realise this.

The cyclist cuts across a motorway, not a dual carriageway. The title
says "M60" plain and simple. Why not take a look.

Are you Nugent's sister? You have the same inibility to read and
comprehend. I did not use the words "dual carriageway".

In many instances the only difference between a motorway and a dual
carriageway is that one has blue signs and the other has green signs.
It also happens that where green signs are used it is permitted to
discover and develop the spatial skills needed for crossing a "fast two
lane trunk road".

On 09/03/2020 14:02, TMS320 wrote:
On 08/03/2020 04:25, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 15:29, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 12:51, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2020 11:20, TMS320 wrote:
On 07/03/2020 10:28, Pamela wrote:
On 15:12Â* 6 Mar 2020, MrCheerful wrote:

The idiot rider was captured on dashcam dodging through speeding
traffic
on the M60, forcing drivers to slam on the brakes to avoid a deadly
accident.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/motors/1111...t-ride-across-
entire-m60-motorway/

Why do people like that cycle as if the law simply doesn't apply
to them?

A mistake?

It's so easy to cycle inadvertently onto a motorway and then cross
from an access sliproad to the offside lane (of three) then swerve
back across to the hard shoulder, isn't it?

If you bothered to look, you would find that the access from the
roundabout joins on the right. Now, I accept there was opportunity to
return to the roundabout before entering the motorway proper but we
have no idea what was going through her mind.

What has any of that got to do with it?

It has everything to do with your attitude.

But perhaps the cylist entered the motorway vertically, directly
into the offside overtaking lane from an overbridge?
Â*
But still, thanks for coming along to try to defend the cyclist. I
knew you would. We all did.

...but it's so much easier for you to post snide remarks.

You're the one trying to "explain" that there is an innocent reason
for the danger the cyclist caused.

No, I was giving a more accurate description of the road layout.

Or, not, as the case actually is.