The Presumption of Innocence No Longer Exists

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On Jul 27, 8:45 pm, Morten Reippuert wrote:
Bill C wrote:
ASO cozying up to WADA definitely doesn't seem like it's going to lead
to good things for either the riders or the sport.

You got to be kidding!

Two indepent cycling federations won't be good for anyone. ASO's
federation will be a purely comercial federation, aka a cirkus where
only ASO makes the decicions.

Your local cycling club and national federation wont have any
representation in a ASO federation.

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Your not from the US or you'd know that we, the riders and members,
don't have any representation with our federation anyway. There's a
small handfull of Pros and the Good 'ol Boy network, many of whom were
involved in the earlier doping/blood doping scandals that still run
things. This was absolute from the time they removed our
representatives, until the revolt when lots of areas left the
federation. They kissed ass and brought in some good people until the
revolt cooled off, then they fired the good people and we're back to
business as usual.
Why should I cry if that ends?
Bill C

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:48:28 -0000, wrote:

A couple of times when I flew in to CDG airport in Paris from the USA
or Canada, there weren't even officials checking documents. It was
either too early for them, or else they were on strike.

I find that extremely hard to believe. In over twenty years of
regularly arriving at CDG on flights originating in countries outside
the EU (including close on ten years of Hong Kong - Roissy twice a
month) I have never EVER not had my passport checked.

Andrew Price writes:

On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 23:48:28 -0000, wrote:

A couple of times when I flew in to CDG airport in Paris from the USA
or Canada, there weren't even officials checking documents. It was
either too early for them, or else they were on strike.

I find that extremely hard to believe. In over twenty years of
regularly arriving at CDG on flights originating in countries outside
the EU (including close on ten years of Hong Kong - Roissy twice a
month) I have never EVER not had my passport checked.

I related earlier, Andrew, how I had exactly the same experience a few
weeks ago in Nice

A complete walkthrough

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On Sun, 29 Jul 2007 01:58:23 +0200, Davey Crockett
wrote:

I related earlier, Andrew, how I had exactly the same experience a few
weeks ago in Nice

Where had your flight come from ?

A complete walkthrough

You mean the passport desk was unmanned, or simply that they looked at
you, then waved you through without opening your passport ?

On Jul 26, 7:14 am, wrote:
Esteemed Knuckleheads:

Patrice Clerc: "...the presumption of innocence no longer exists.
That's why we have to make sure we go all the way to achieve clarity.
This must be done to reinstate the right of a presumption of
innocence." (http://www.letour.fr/2007/TDF/LIVE/us/1700/
depeches.html)

Yikes.

Three words: military tribunal Gitmo.

Discuss.

I O N U S

His latest suggestion is to restore national teams. That practice
certainly promoted fairness.

-ilan

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On Jul 26, 7:14 am, wrote:
Esteemed Knuckleheads:

Patrice Clerc: "...the presumption of innocence no longer exists.
That's why we have to make sure we go all the way to achieve clarity.
This must be done to reinstate the right of a presumption of
innocence." (http://www.letour.fr/2007/TDF/LIVE/us/1700/
depeches.html)

Yikes.

Three words: military tribunal Gitmo.

Discuss.

I O N U S

His latest suggestion is to restore national teams. That practice
certainly promoted fairness.

Those stupid *******s in Guantanimo just don't know what the hell they're
doing:

http://www.turkishpress.com/nw.asp?s...up+in+Pakistan