30 on the flats!

Rich wrote:
bbaka wrote:

I can easily drink that much on one of my 100 degree mountain centuries.


Another obvious example of one of your lies.

Do you have any idea how much water is lost both due to respiration and
sweat on a reasonably hard ride in 15% humidity and 100 degrees?
I have gone out on 9 hour plus rides and consumed a full gallon of
Orange Juice from my back pack plus my water bottles. On that ride I
even filled up the bottles from the mountain stream I biked/hiked to.
Use you computer to look at the water consumption of the workers on the
Panama canal project and it will say that each worker drank over 2
gallons day. You get a sloshy stomach that would ruin a joggers day but
it is tolerable on a bike.

Buy a cyclocomputer. Then get back to us with some actual facts. I
think you'll discover that you're not riding anywhere near as far or
fast as you're claiming.

If I ride 100 miles it does take me about 9 hours since I am not doing
it to best my time and much of it is on gravel/dirt/no roads. That takes
my average down to about 11 MPH but is irrelevant since I am just out to
go and be one on one with the nature of the forest I ride to. A century
on the local streets and highways could be done but I almost got hit
twice while on the 40 miles of road I took on my 50 mile jaunt. There
are way too many idiots and just plain assholes out there. A car load of
kids thought it would be fun to blast up behind me and honk the horn and
all yell as they passed and I was on a one foot shoulder. My response,
instant finger, what else.
Bill Baka

Rich

jj wrote:
: Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the first
: time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the road started
: up hill, but uh, yay, me.

Didn't it just plain feel too fast? I was doing 36 (downhill) and
started thinking... "Any slipup and I'm gonna really hurt..."


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Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
jj wrote:
Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the
first time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the
road started up hill, but uh, yay, me.

Didn't it just plain feel too fast? I was doing 36 (downhill) and
started thinking... "Any slipup and I'm gonna really hurt..."

No, no, no. Faulty thinking!

The faster you can go downhill, the faster the pain is over if you crash.
(Applies to anything over, say, 20 mph.)

Simple, eh?

Speedy GonSornez

On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing
wrote:

jj wrote:
: Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the first
: time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the road started
: up hill, but uh, yay, me.

Didn't it just plain feel too fast? I was doing 36 (downhill) and
started thinking... "Any slipup and I'm gonna really hurt..."

Oddly it didn't feel that fast. I wonder if there's some kind of
stabilizing gyro thing happening that makes it feel more stable above 25 or
so. I've felt this a few times, very subjective, probably no basis in fact.
(Obviously, unlike downhill, you let up for a second and the speed rapidly
drops off as well adding to the less 'out-of-control' feeling.)

Downhill, yes it feels much faster (to me). The highest speed I've let
myself go downhill is 35-36, being a newbie clydesdale rider. (In my
University days at a skinny 155 I never worried about speed, but ya know
the bigger you are... ;-) )

jj

jj wrote:
: On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing
: wrote:

:jj wrote:
:: Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the first
:: time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the road started
:: up hill, but uh, yay, me.
:
:Didn't it just plain feel too fast? I was doing 36 (downhill) and
:started thinking... "Any slipup and I'm gonna really hurt..."

: Oddly it didn't feel that fast. I wonder if there's some kind of
: stabilizing gyro thing happening that makes it feel more stable above 25 or
: so. I've felt this a few times, very subjective, probably no basis in fact.
: (Obviously, unlike downhill, you let up for a second and the speed rapidly
: drops off as well adding to the less 'out-of-control' feeling.)

: Downhill, yes it feels much faster (to me). The highest speed I've let
: myself go downhill is 35-36, being a newbie clydesdale rider. (In my
: University days at a skinny 155 I never worried about speed, but ya know
: the bigger you are... ;-) )

Yea... I had gotten to the point where I could no longer pedal fast enough
to engage the sprocket.. someplace over 36mph as I stopped looking at the
bike computer after a while concentrating on what I hoped was debris free
roadway (I guess so I'd know before I went thwack onthe street)...

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On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:48:21 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
jj wrote:
: On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing
: wrote:

:jj wrote:
:: Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the first
:: time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the road started
:: up hill, but uh, yay, me.

: Downhill, yes it feels much faster (to me). The highest speed I've let
: myself go downhill is 35-36, being a newbie clydesdale rider. (In my
: University days at a skinny 155 I never worried about speed, but ya know
: the bigger you are... ;-) )

Yea... I had gotten to the point where I could no longer pedal fast enough
to engage the sprocket.. someplace over 36mph as I stopped looking at the
bike computer after a while concentrating on what I hoped was debris free
roadway (I guess so I'd know before I went thwack onthe street)...

I've got an 11x21 and I'm good to about 48 mph. I can handle high RPM
(to about 183 before I start bouncing out of the seat, of course no
power at 183 rpm). The fastest I've coasted has been to 50 mph down
one hill here in the flat lands. I thought better of doing that as I
noticed the cars blowing though a stop sign ahead (I had the right of
way on the through street). I don't have a problem with handling speed
it's more a concern of the rest of the traffic doing stupid
things. Like passing in S turns while the speed limit is 25 and I'm
doing 40 mph. That happens too often on my commute on Holland Rd in
Monmouth County in NJ. I take the lane and they pass on the wrong side
of a double line. I guess I was holding them up. :-/


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On Mon, 04 Apr 2005 07:06:34 -0500, Neil Cherry wrote:

On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 08:48:21 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:
jj wrote:
: On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 10:56:56 +0000 (UTC), Chicago Paddling-Fishing
: wrote:

:jj wrote:
:: Yesterday was a pretty good day as I hit 30mph on the flats for the first
:: time. Granted I could only hold it for 10-15 seconds when the road started
:: up hill, but uh, yay, me.

: Downhill, yes it feels much faster (to me). The highest speed I've let
: myself go downhill is 35-36, being a newbie clydesdale rider. (In my
: University days at a skinny 155 I never worried about speed, but ya know
: the bigger you are... ;-) )

Yea... I had gotten to the point where I could no longer pedal fast enough
to engage the sprocket.. someplace over 36mph as I stopped looking at the
bike computer after a while concentrating on what I hoped was debris free
roadway (I guess so I'd know before I went thwack onthe street)...

I've got an 11x21 and I'm good to about 48 mph. I can handle high RPM
(to about 183 before I start bouncing out of the seat, of course no
power at 183 rpm). The fastest I've coasted has been to 50 mph down
one hill here in the flat lands. I thought better of doing that as I
noticed the cars blowing though a stop sign ahead (I had the right of
way on the through street).

Not to worry, the penalties for mowing down a cyclist or two are fairly
minor I'm told. ;-p

I don't have a problem with handling speed
it's more a concern of the rest of the traffic doing stupid
things. Like passing in S turns while the speed limit is 25 and I'm
doing 40 mph. That happens too often on my commute on Holland Rd in
Monmouth County in NJ. I take the lane and they pass on the wrong side
of a double line. I guess I was holding them up. :-/

It's amazing how that happens. I ride a route that has a 25mph zone going
past kids playing at the end of a Trailer park, lots of children chasing
balls into the street and I'll occasionally have cars pass me zooming up to
40-45 when I'm doing the speed limit on the road going up to that section.
(By the time I get there I'm slowed to about 15 going up a hill.)

The -need- to "pass the biker" is so strong that they're willing to risk
not only breaking the speed limit, but also running over children to do it.

jj