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Midracers are BS hype
What a FOCKING joke. Now someone is calling dual 24" wheel bents "midracers". Who was the wahoo that came up with that friggin BS name? Midracers my ass. There is nothing race worthy about anything called midracer. It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. Stop the baloney marketing BS right now and WAKE UP. High or mid does not cut it and never will be fast at an HPV race. The only bents worthy of racing are the NoComs, Cobras, RazzFazzs, Jesters and Barons. Every other bent made is for slow bike trail riding not racing. You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. RealDeal ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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I tend to agree that lowracers should be faster than highracers in HPV track
events; but I have no numerical proof. Got numbers to back up these claims? Race results? Side-by-side time trials? R "RealDeal" wrote in message ... What a FOCKING joke. Now someone is calling dual 24" wheel bents "midracers". Who was the wahoo that came up with that friggin BS name? Midracers my ass. There is nothing race worthy about anything called midracer. It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. Stop the baloney marketing BS right now and WAKE UP. High or mid does not cut it and never will be fast at an HPV race. The only bents worthy of racing are the NoComs, Cobras, RazzFazzs, Jesters and Barons. Every other bent made is for slow bike trail riding not racing. You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. RealDeal ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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"rocketman" wrote in message news:5h0Id.19458$EG1.7889@attbi_s53... I tend to agree that lowracers should be faster than highracers in HPV track events; but I have no numerical proof. Got numbers to back up these claims? Race results? Side-by-side time trials? R I have a lowracer but I should think both should be even assuming both riders are reclined at the same agnele, its all about wind resistance anyway |
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RealDeal wrote:
It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. So what if you fancy competing in a class that outlaws lowracers (such do exist IIRC, at least in the BHPC), perhaps because you want a bike you feel happier on in traffic and can't afford two? You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. "You" want whatever floats your boat, for whatever reason. Which may or may not be a lowracer. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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rocketman wrote:
"RealDeal" wrote in message ... What a FOCKING joke. Now someone is calling dual 24" wheel bents "midracers". Who was the wahoo that came up with that friggin BS name? Midracers my ass. There is nothing race worthy about anything called midracer. It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. Stop the baloney marketing BS right now and WAKE UP. High or mid does not cut it and never will be fast at an HPV race. The only bents worthy of racing are the NoComs, Cobras, RazzFazzs, Jesters and Barons. Every other bent made is for slow bike trail riding not racing. You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. RealDeal I tend to agree that lowracers should be faster than highracers in HPV track events; but I have no numerical proof. Got numbers to back up these claims? Race results? Side-by-side time trials? I believe that "RealDeal" has a handful of "Monkey Poo". -- Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island |
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Here's an interesting result on this....
In 1997 I was participating in numerous racing events ... and at times I had a Festina Extra Low Racer and a Zox 26 (Z-Frame). The Zox 26 was consistantly faster. My guess is that the frontal area was about the same, even with the larger wheels ... but rolling resistance was lower on the ZOX. Me on the Festina at the San Diego Streamliner Series: http://zipproof.com/servlet/Zip/View...b4b7825019fa6e And on the ZOX 26 Z-Frame: http://zipproof.com/servlet/Zip/View...c530dc4acbbb46 (Both of this at the San Diego Velodrome). The Bacchetta Strada is close to the ZOX's speed, in fact I get better trip times mainly from it's better climbing characteristics (for me). It needs a tailbox though ;-) BikingBill P.S. I have a Zox 26 Z-Frame I'm thinking of selling. Tom Sherman wrote: rocketman wrote: "RealDeal" wrote in message ... What a FOCKING joke. Now someone is calling dual 24" wheel bents "midracers". Who was the wahoo that came up with that friggin BS name? Midracers my ass. There is nothing race worthy about anything called midracer. It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. Stop the baloney marketing BS right now and WAKE UP. High or mid does not cut it and never will be fast at an HPV race. The only bents worthy of racing are the NoComs, Cobras, RazzFazzs, Jesters and Barons. Every other bent made is for slow bike trail riding not racing. You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. RealDeal I tend to agree that lowracers should be faster than highracers in HPV track events; but I have no numerical proof. Got numbers to back up these claims? Race results? Side-by-side time trials? I believe that "RealDeal" has a handful of "Monkey Poo". -- Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island |
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BikingBill wrote:
Here's an interesting result on this.... In 1997 I was participating in numerous racing events ... and at times I had a Festina Extra Low Racer and a Zox 26 (Z-Frame). The Zox 26 was consistantly faster. My guess is that the frontal area was about the same, even with the larger wheels ... but rolling resistance was lower on the ZOX. Me on the Festina at the San Diego Streamliner Series: http://zipproof.com/servlet/Zip/View...b4b7825019fa6e And on the ZOX 26 Z-Frame: http://zipproof.com/servlet/Zip/View...c530dc4acbbb46 (Both of this at the San Diego Velodrome). Bill, What tires were on the Festina - was it the older ISO 390-mm/ISO 451-mm, the newer dual ISO 406-mm version, or something else? The Bacchetta Strada is close to the ZOX's speed, in fact I get better trip times mainly from it's better climbing characteristics (for me). It needs a tailbox though ;-) Here is a website that covers making a tailbox from coroplast: http://www.ihpva.org/Builders/WVolk/. [I really should not be a smartass here, since "Wild Bill" is a rather large man. ] Will the Strada tailbox be larger than the average student apartment? -- Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island |
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Funny thing is, I now construct with Coroplast using a different
technique than I did previously. Gone are the rivets, replaced by Zip Ties. Still like the Foam Tape for getting it set. Most likely the Strada will get a 'resonable' sized tailbox ... I have the Bacchetta "bag adaptor" so I will build a "rackless" box that attaches to that. Quick removal being vital for the bike's role as a Amtrak commuter. As to the Festina ... it had the 390/451 combo ... but even with the discs ... the Zox was over 1mph faster on the track. I did a 31:05 20km at Fiesta Island on the Zox 26 in '98. My best time since 1978. Amazing. I have to say this ... the Bacchetta Strada IS the bike I was trying to build back in '97. I even had the kinesis fork for a time. I just didn't want to have a top idler ... In retrospect the original dual 26" design for Heavy Metal would have been better ... as proven by the very fine handling of the Strada. One hint ... the fastening allen bolts on the seat clamp are VERY hard to get to, and in many cases they (by being loose) are the cause of any seat slipping. With a clean frame, and these bolts tight ... I cannot slip the seat ... even on double-diget grades. How good of a climber is the Strada? I go up the same hills that I did in a 32/34 combo on the Zox with a 32/28 combo. That is shocking. Bill |
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Actually, put a hill in front of a "lowracer" and it's a "lowdragger."
(This assessment is simply an in kind reponse to an incoherent advocacy post. Not to be taken seriouly by anyone genuinely interested in the camparison ol low vs high racers, or anything in between. -- --Scott "RealDeal" wrote in message ... What a FOCKING joke. Now someone is calling dual 24" wheel bents "midracers". Who was the wahoo that came up with that friggin BS name? Midracers my ass. There is nothing race worthy about anything called midracer. It is bad enough that some marketing clown from Killer B fatass world came up with the name highracer to sell overpriced bikes. As if any dual high wheeler bent is setting speed records. Get FOCKING real. The only real racers are LOWRACERS. Stop the baloney marketing BS right now and WAKE UP. High or mid does not cut it and never will be fast at an HPV race. The only bents worthy of racing are the NoComs, Cobras, RazzFazzs, Jesters and Barons. Every other bent made is for slow bike trail riding not racing. You want to race get the real deal. A LOWRACER. RealDeal ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 100,000 Newsgroups ---= 19 East/West-Coast Specialized Servers - Total Privacy via Encryption =--- |
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Put two 24" wheels on a recumbent and its a SLOWracer on anything including hills.
Midracer or highracer are both SLOWRACERS and not worthy of being considered a race bike of any kind. They are both stick poles on big wheels marketed to fat and slow benters with lots of disposable income. Tack the name "racer" on a slow bike design and some joker will buy it . Lowracers are design for racing and high stick pole bents are not. Anything higher than a lowracer is a slow piece of crap. Real Deal |
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