Is Rahsaan Bahati a racist?

On Jan 4, 2:42*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
billyroll wrote:
On Jan 3, 2:27Ýam, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html....

"Hopefully before I leave this sport I will have my own team, a
predominantly black team."

I'm just trying to think if it would be okay for a white pro to give
this quote to a newspaper reporter: "Hopefully before I leave this sport
I will have my own team, a predominantly white team."

Thanks,

Magilla

Well, if a white pro were to say that, he'd be laughed at for saying
something supremely stupid. He already has a predominantly white team.
And if he goes into management, he'll have a predominantly white
team.

Rahsaan's not racist. He wants to see more people like him learn the
sport and have access to it. He was lucky to learn about cycling. If
it weren't for a caring teacher, the U.S. wouldn't have it's best
sprinter. I can only assume that he wants other to have the same
opportunity he had. And for that I applaud him. Hopefully with his
help, he can raise the level of domestic racing the United States.

BR

Why does Bahati view black people as being a different cohort of people than
white people to begin with? *Why not just call all of them "people?"

You don't hear Asian Americans saying "I want to have a team of Asians" or
Indians saying "I want to have a team of Indians."


dumbass,

i want to have a team of indians. so far i have bobby jindal and
sanjay gupta to lead me out.

Amit Ghosh wrote:

On Jan 4, 2:42*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
billyroll wrote:
On Jan 3, 2:27?am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...-11088,00.html...

"Hopefully before I leave this sport I will have my own team, a
predominantly black team."

I'm just trying to think if it would be okay for a white pro to give
this quote to a newspaper reporter: "Hopefully before I leave this sport
I will have my own team, a predominantly white team."

Thanks,

Magilla

Well, if a white pro were to say that, he'd be laughed at for saying
something supremely stupid. He already has a predominantly white team.
And if he goes into management, he'll have a predominantly white
team.

Rahsaan's not racist. He wants to see more people like him learn the
sport and have access to it. He was lucky to learn about cycling. If
it weren't for a caring teacher, the U.S. wouldn't have it's best
sprinter. I can only assume that he wants other to have the same
opportunity he had. And for that I applaud him. Hopefully with his
help, he can raise the level of domestic racing the United States.

BR

Why does Bahati view black people as being a different cohort of people than
white people to begin with? *Why not just call all of them "people?"

You don't hear Asian Americans saying "I want to have a team of Asians" or
Indians saying "I want to have a team of Indians."


dumbass,

i want to have a team of indians. so far i have bobby jindal and
sanjay gupta to lead me out.

Well, I stand corrected. I'm pretty sure you want Deepak Chopra on the radio
driving the car. And for the team training camp, you can take the team out to
see this motivational film:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N2viKl3tdU

Magilla

LawBoy01 wrote:

On Jan 4, 2:29*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:58*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

I don't view JT as a black cyclist. *He's a just another cyclist to me. *Why is
race an identity characterisitc for you (and Bahati?)?

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People are people so why should it be? *Well, Magilla, because there
are some people like Bahati who are black and enjoy cycling, and see
their black counterparts shunning cycling because it's not culturally
acceptable in the black community, particularly in the south central
LA area where Bahati comes from. *The point is that race belies
cultural underpinnings.

Not for me it doesn't. *Anyone who views themselves and their identity through their
race is a racist.

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That's not at all what a racist is, Magilla. You've only described
one's self-view.

99% of being a racist is viewing your own identity through your own race (and therefore
the identity of others through their race). Once you condition yourself to do that, you
tend to judge other people based almost exclusively on their race.

And the idea that someone from Dallas, Texas is going to lecture me about racism is
hilarious.

Why don't you go execute another black person or Mexican and then go watch a college
football game. After you do that, you can go to a Texas rodeo.


Magilla

On Jan 4, 3:19*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 2:29*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:58*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

I don't view JT as a black cyclist. *He's a just another cyclist to me. *Why is
race an identity characterisitc for you (and Bahati?)?

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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People are people so why should it be? *Well, Magilla, because there
are some people like Bahati who are black and enjoy cycling, and see
their black counterparts shunning cycling because it's not culturally
acceptable in the black community, particularly in the south central
LA area where Bahati comes from. *The point is that race belies
cultural underpinnings.

Not for me it doesn't. *Anyone who views themselves and their identity through their
race is a racist.

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That's not at all what a racist is, Magilla. *You've only described
one's self-view.

99% of being a racist is viewing your own identity through your own race (and therefore
the identity of others through their race). *Once you condition yourself to do that, you
tend to judge other people based almost exclusively on their race.

And the idea that someone from Dallas, Texas is going to lecture me about racism is
hilarious.

Why don't you go execute another black person or Mexican and then go watch a college
football game. *After you do that, you can go to a Texas rodeo.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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Tell that to all of the genealogists out there.

As for your lame attempt at one-upsmanship, "meh".

LawBoy01 wrote:

On Jan 4, 3:19*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 2:29*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:58*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

I don't view JT as a black cyclist. *He's a just another cyclist to me. *Why is
race an identity characterisitc for you (and Bahati?)?

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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People are people so why should it be? *Well, Magilla, because there
are some people like Bahati who are black and enjoy cycling, and see
their black counterparts shunning cycling because it's not culturally
acceptable in the black community, particularly in the south central
LA area where Bahati comes from. *The point is that race belies
cultural underpinnings.

Not for me it doesn't. *Anyone who views themselves and their identity through their
race is a racist.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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That's not at all what a racist is, Magilla. *You've only described
one's self-view.

99% of being a racist is viewing your own identity through your own race (and therefore
the identity of others through their race). *Once you condition yourself to do that, you
tend to judge other people based almost exclusively on their race.

And the idea that someone from Dallas, Texas is going to lecture me about racism is
hilarious.

Why don't you go execute another black person or Mexican and then go watch a college
football game. *After you do that, you can go to a Texas rodeo.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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Tell that to all of the genealogists out there.

As for your lame attempt at one-upsmanship, "meh".

I'm telling it to you.

Magilla

On Jan 4, 4:25*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 3:19*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 2:29*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:
LawBoy01 wrote:
On Jan 4, 1:58*am, MagillaGorilla wrote:

I don't view JT as a black cyclist. *He's a just another cyclist to me. *Why is
race an identity characterisitc for you (and Bahati?)?

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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People are people so why should it be? *Well, Magilla, because there
are some people like Bahati who are black and enjoy cycling, and see
their black counterparts shunning cycling because it's not culturally
acceptable in the black community, particularly in the south central
LA area where Bahati comes from. *The point is that race belies
cultural underpinnings.

Not for me it doesn't. *Anyone who views themselves and their identity through their
race is a racist.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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That's not at all what a racist is, Magilla. *You've only described
one's self-view.

99% of being a racist is viewing your own identity through your own race (and therefore
the identity of others through their race). *Once you condition yourself to do that, you
tend to judge other people based almost exclusively on their race.

And the idea that someone from Dallas, Texas is going to lecture me about racism is
hilarious.

Why don't you go execute another black person or Mexican and then go watch a college
football game. *After you do that, you can go to a Texas rodeo.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Tell that to all of the genealogists out there.

As for your lame attempt at one-upsmanship, "meh".

I'm telling it to you.

Magilla- Hide quoted text -

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You go, girl.

Amit Ghosh wrote:
dumbass,
i want to have a team of indians. so far i have bobby jindal and sanjay
gupta to lead me out.

You've even got some podium girls lined up (a la rock racing):
http://www.topsexywomen.com/bollywood-actress.html

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:36:09 -0500, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

I am aware of no current pro team that actively recruits "white guys" over
black guys and states so to reporters.

There is no need for them to say it or acively do it -- it just
happens.

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 02:42:43 -0500, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

Why does Bahati view black people as being a different cohort of people than
white people to begin with? Why not just call all of them "people?"

Because, especially where he grew up, they're not treated as just
people..

On Sun, 04 Jan 2009 04:13:11 -0500, MagillaGorilla
wrote:

I'm pretty sure you want Deepak Chopra on the radio
driving the car.

Hahahaha.

You get his voice in an audiobook. Just edit is to his voice saying
"Stay up front" over and over, then put that on your ipod and you're
good to go.