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Near Miss of the Day 499: Driver cuts straight across cyclist atjunction
On 18/11/2020 18:15, Mike Collins wrote:
On Wednesday, 18 November 2020 at 11:40:16 UTC, JNugent wrote: On 17/11/2020 20:44, TMS320 wrote: On 17/11/2020 17:03, JNugent wrote: On 17/11/2020 15:25, TMS320 wrote: Yes, it's amusing that you think that if something suddenly blocks the way ahead "stopping" doesn't make the event a near collision. No-one - not even a cyclist - is justified in ploughing on and colliding with a vehicle - or a human - who has moved into their path, irrespective of whether that third party is in the wrong. You haven't looked at the video and you keep flip flopping between near collision and collision. The cyclist calmly avoided a collision. He made the situation less safe than it could have been by ploughing on in an obvious fit of pique. He could have stayed further away from the other vehicle (and yes, the actions of the driver *were* annoying) by slowing or better still, stopping. I would have done so. So, I suggest, would most people. You insist, though, that you would not have sought to minimise the danger by slowing or stopping. I'm still not sure whether to believe you on that last bit; it could be that you are just posturing. When you are in a hole stop digging. The 'untrained' non 'road tax' paying cyclist handled the situation perfectly. That's a ridiculous thing to say. The cyclist could have slowed and or stopped well short of any potential collision point. I would class this as an everyday occurrence not a near miss, I'll agree with that. People make mistakes all the time. The best way to react to mistakes by others is to minimise the danger which then presents itself. The best way to do that is to STOP and not to plough on as a mistaken "point of honour". not that it excuses the dangerous driving from the 'highly trained' subsidised road user. Indeed not. But making the situation either worse than it needs to be, or less safe than it can be made, is stupid. But perhaps the bike had no brakes. There's apparently a lot of it about. |
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Near Miss of the Day 499: Driver cuts straight across cyclist at junction
On Wednesday, November 18, 2020 at 6:15:40 PM UTC, Mike Collins wrote:
I would class this as an everyday occurrence not a near miss, not that it excuses the dangerous driving from the 'highly trained' subsidised road user. Agreed - when I used to cycle to work 1995-2013, these incidents were ten a penny. Most drivers held their hands up and said sorry for their mistakes. Even pedestrians that walked out in front of you without looking apologised. |
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Near Miss of the Day 499: Driver cuts straight across cyclist atjunction
On 18/11/2020 11:42, JNugent wrote:
On 17/11/2020 20:44, TMS320 wrote: On 17/11/2020 17:03, JNugent wrote: On 17/11/2020 15:25, TMS320 wrote: Yes, it's amusing that you think that if something suddenly blocks the way ahead "stopping" doesn't make the event a near collision. No-one - not even a cyclist - is justified in ploughing on and colliding with a vehicle - or a human - who has moved into their path, irrespective of whether that third party is in the wrong. You haven't looked at the video and you keep flip flopping between near collision and collision. The cyclist calmly avoided a collision. He made the situation less safe than it could have been by ploughing on in an obvious fit of pique. He could have stayed further away from the other vehicle (and yes, the actions of the driver *were* annoying) by slowing or better still, stopping. Even before he could walk, my grandson clearly had better spatial awareness than you have. I would have done so. It's known as target fixation. Quite common in people inexpert at vehicle control. So, I suggest, would most people. You insist, though, that you would not have sought to minimise the danger by slowing or stopping. I'm still not sure whether to believe you on that last bit; it could be that you are just posturing. Slowing or stopping? What a stupid statement: it is not possible to stop without slowing. Responses are to slow and go round or to slow and stop. The former is always best, where there is room. |
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Near Miss of the Day 499: Driver cuts straight across cyclist atjunction
On 18/11/2020 18:15, Mike Collins wrote:
When you are in a hole stop digging. The 'untrained' non 'road tax' paying cyclist handled the situation perfectly. I would class this as an everyday occurrence not a near miss, not that it excuses the dangerous driving from the 'highly trained' subsidised road user. Yes, it's something cyclists learn to live with. It happens to drivers so rarely that when it happened to me about 11 or 12 years ago the experience gained from cycling was invaluable. |
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