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81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist



 
 
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Old March 19th 13, 04:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a pelican
crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in Altrincham, next to the
junction of Devonshire Street.

A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with the
latter sustaining a serious head injury.

He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being transferred to
Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...anchester.html


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Old March 19th 13, 05:34 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 16:04, Mrcheerful wrote:
The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a pelican
crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in Altrincham, next to the
junction of Devonshire Street.

A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with the
latter sustaining a serious head injury.

He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being transferred to
Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...anchester.html



Just goes to show that cyclists need to take extra care when there are
pedestrians who might step into the road.

It is surprising the number of pedestrians who don’t look when they
cross the road. Instead they rely on their ears and will not hear a
cyclist approaching so just step in front of them. Happens to me all the
time. In fact it happened to me today, she was looking at the car coming
the other way and just stepped off the kerb. Luckily I anticipated this
and just rode round the back of her. It gave her a bit of a fright though.

Hope the poor chap gets better soon.

Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The sad
thing is that neither of them did.

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Old March 19th 13, 05:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mrcheerful[_3_]
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

Simon Weissel wrote:
On 19/03/2013 16:04, Mrcheerful wrote:
The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a
pelican crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in
Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street.

A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with
the latter sustaining a serious head injury.

He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being
transferred to Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical
condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...anchester.html



Just goes to show that cyclists need to take extra care when there are
pedestrians who might step into the road.

It is surprising the number of pedestrians who don’t look when they
cross the road. Instead they rely on their ears and will not hear a
cyclist approaching so just step in front of them. Happens to me all
the time. In fact it happened to me today, she was looking at the car
coming the other way and just stepped off the kerb. Luckily I
anticipated this and just rode round the back of her. It gave her a
bit of a fright though.
Hope the poor chap gets better soon.

Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The
sad thing is that neither of them did.


The elderly can be forgiven a lot especially with regard to eyesight and
hearing, he had tried to use the crossing, which is where road users should
really be expecting pedestrians to be crossing the road. The cyclist has no
excuses other than selfishness.


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Old March 19th 13, 06:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 17:51, Mrcheerful wrote:
Simon Weissel wrote:



Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The
sad thing is that neither of them did.


The elderly can be forgiven a lot especially with regard to eyesight and
hearing, he had tried to use the crossing, which is where road users should
really be expecting pedestrians to be crossing the road. The cyclist has no
excuses other than selfishness.



You’d be surprised at the number of drivers who sail through pedestrian
crossings expecting pedestrians to be out of the way. Especially if the
lights are green but I have also seen it happen on red too.

The fact is, you really do not know if this was a simple act of
carelessness or an aggressive selfish and arrogant act on part of the
cyclist. The thing is, drivers behave like this with regularity but
pedestrians (usually) get out of the way. But when a cyclist does it it
becomes and awful thing for him to do. I am not trying to justify, just
sayin’, that’s all.

And yes the old fella can be forgiven, same if it were a child, drunk,
idiot etc etc etc.

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Old March 19th 13, 06:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On Mar 19, 5:51*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Simon Weissel wrote:
On 19/03/2013 16:04, Mrcheerful wrote:
The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a
pelican crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in
Altrincham, next to the junction of Devonshire Street.


A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with
the latter sustaining a serious head injury.


He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being
transferred to Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical
condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...-man-critical-....


Just goes to show that cyclists need to take extra care when there are
pedestrians who might step into the road.


It is surprising the number of pedestrians who don’t look when they
cross the road. Instead they rely on their ears and will not hear a
cyclist approaching so just step in front of them. Happens to me all
the time. In fact it happened to me today, she was looking at the car
coming the other way and just stepped off the kerb. Luckily I
anticipated this and just rode round the back of her. It gave her a
bit of a fright though.
Hope the poor chap gets better soon.


Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The
sad thing is that neither of them did.


The elderly can be forgiven a lot especially with regard to eyesight and
hearing, he had tried to use the crossing, which is where road users should
really be expecting pedestrians to be crossing the road. *The cyclist has no
excuses other than selfishness.


Says you. It could be carelessness, stupidity, SMIDSY (it works as
standard excuse for motorists), or mechanical failure.

Strange how you hold cyclists to a higher standard than, well, just
about anybody else, motorists, old people, women, children, potholes.
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Old March 19th 13, 06:47 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 17:34, Simon Weissel wrote:
On 19/03/2013 16:04, Mrcheerful wrote:
The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a pelican
crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in Altrincham, next to
the
junction of Devonshire Street.

A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with the
latter sustaining a serious head injury.

He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being
transferred to
Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...anchester.html




Just goes to show that cyclists need to take extra care when there are
pedestrians who might step into the road.

It is surprising the number of pedestrians who don’t look when they
cross the road. Instead they rely on their ears and will not hear a
cyclist approaching so just step in front of them. Happens to me all the
time. In fact it happened to me today, she was looking at the car coming
the other way and just stepped off the kerb. Luckily I anticipated this
and just rode round the back of her. It gave her a bit of a fright though.

Hope the poor chap gets better soon.

Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The sad
thing is that neither of them did.


Yes, of course; the victim could (and clearly, in your opinion,
*should*) have stayed at home and not strayed out onto a pelicon
crossing so as to annoy the cyclist who let's face it, only wanted to
ignore the lights and the victim.
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Old March 19th 13, 06:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 18:05, Simon Weissel wrote:
#
On 19/03/2013 17:51, Mrcheerful wrote:
Simon Weissel wrote:



Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The
sad thing is that neither of them did.


The elderly can be forgiven a lot especially with regard to eyesight and
hearing, he had tried to use the crossing, which is where road users
should
really be expecting pedestrians to be crossing the road. The cyclist
has no
excuses other than selfishness.

You’d be surprised at the number of drivers who sail through pedestrian
crossings expecting pedestrians to be out of the way. Especially if the
lights are green


fancy that.

but I have also seen it happen on red too.


I know. I was right behind you when you saw it. Drivers ignore red
traffic lights all the time, unlike cyclists, who never break the law.

The fact is, you really do not know if this was a simple act of
carelessness or an aggressive selfish and arrogant act on part of the
cyclist. The thing is, drivers behave like this with regularity but
pedestrians (usually) get out of the way. But when a cyclist does it it
becomes and awful thing for him to do. I am not trying to justify, just
sayin’, that’s all.

And yes the old fella can be forgiven, same if it were a child, drunk,
idiot etc etc etc.

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Old March 19th 13, 06:51 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 18:47, JNugent wrote:


Yes, of course; the victim could (and clearly, in your opinion,
*should*) have stayed at home and not strayed out onto a pelicon
crossing so as to annoy the cyclist who let's face it, only wanted to
ignore the lights and the victim.


Wow, you *are* being a dick today.
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Old March 19th 13, 06:53 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Weissel
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On 19/03/2013 18:49, JNugent wrote:
On 19/03/2013 18:05, Simon Weissel wrote:
#
On 19/03/2013 17:51, Mrcheerful wrote:
Simon Weissel wrote:



Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The
sad thing is that neither of them did.

The elderly can be forgiven a lot especially with regard to eyesight and
hearing, he had tried to use the crossing, which is where road users
should
really be expecting pedestrians to be crossing the road. The cyclist
has no
excuses other than selfishness.

You’d be surprised at the number of drivers who sail through pedestrian
crossings expecting pedestrians to be out of the way. Especially if the
lights are green


fancy that.


I guess you are one of those dicks who thinks green means that everyone
else should get out of the way.

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Old March 19th 13, 07:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Squashme
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Default 81 year old mown down on Pelican crossing by cyclist

On Mar 19, 6:47*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 19/03/2013 17:34, Simon Weissel wrote:









On 19/03/2013 16:04, Mrcheerful wrote:
The incident occurred at about 6.40pm yesterday (18th March) on a pelican
crossing on the A56 Manchester Road, Broadheath in Altrincham, next to
the
junction of Devonshire Street.


A 22-year-old cyclist collided with an 81-year-old pedestrian, with the
latter sustaining a serious head injury.


He was treated at the scene by a passing doctor before being
transferred to
Salford Royal Hospital where he remains in a critical condition.
http://www.click-manchester.com/news...-man-critical-....


Just goes to show that cyclists need to take extra care when there are
pedestrians who might step into the road.


It is surprising the number of pedestrians who don’t look when they
cross the road. Instead they rely on their ears and will not hear a
cyclist approaching so just step in front of them. Happens to me all the
time. In fact it happened to me today, she was looking at the car coming
the other way and just stepped off the kerb. Luckily I anticipated this
and just rode round the back of her. It gave her a bit of a fright though.


Hope the poor chap gets better soon.


Either party could have been able to avoid this from happening. The sad
thing is that neither of them did.


Yes, of course; the victim could (and clearly, in your opinion,
*should*) have stayed at home and not strayed out


On urc the omniscient trolls suggest that very solution for cyclists.
Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.
 




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