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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits
has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. Marie Buchan, 31 racked up 10 tickets in just one week after straying into the bus lane when her youngest daughter Olivia, then aged two months, was admitted to hospital with bronchitis. Ms Buchan, whose children are aged between four months and 12 years old, receives £500 a month in state handouts and said the £600 of fines left her facing financial ruin. Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them +3 Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them She was caught by bus lane cameras in Birmingham city centre, which have issued more than 80,000 fines since they were installed in September - to the anger of thousands of motorists ordered to pay the £60 sums. Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. Read mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sOFd8z7I read more Anthony |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
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A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. Marie Buchan, 31 racked up 10 tickets in just one week after straying into the bus lane when her youngest daughter Olivia, then aged two months, was admitted to hospital with bronchitis. Ms Buchan, whose children are aged between four months and 12 years old, receives £500 a month in state handouts and said the £600 of fines left her facing financial ruin. Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them +3 Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them She was caught by bus lane cameras in Birmingham city centre, which have issued more than 80,000 fines since they were installed in September - to the anger of thousands of motorists ordered to pay the £60 sums. Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. So what? |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 21:33:11 -0000, "Norman Wells"
wrote: Anthony wrote: A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. Marie Buchan, 31 racked up 10 tickets in just one week after straying into the bus lane when her youngest daughter Olivia, then aged two months, was admitted to hospital with bronchitis. Ms Buchan, whose children are aged between four months and 12 years old, receives £500 a month in state handouts and said the £600 of fines left her facing financial ruin. Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them +3 Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them She was caught by bus lane cameras in Birmingham city centre, which have issued more than 80,000 fines since they were installed in September - to the anger of thousands of motorists ordered to pay the £60 sums. Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. So what? She should have gone by bicycle (just to make this post relevant to uk.rec.cycling). |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On Tue, 4 Feb 2014 21:13:43 -0000, "Anthony" wrote:
snip Anthony Was she a cyclist? |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote:
A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. Marie Buchan, 31 racked up 10 tickets in just one week after straying into the bus lane when her youngest daughter Olivia, then aged two months, was admitted to hospital with bronchitis. Ms Buchan, whose children are aged between four months and 12 years old, receives £500 a month in state handouts and said the £600 of fines left her facing financial ruin. Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them +3 Fined: Marie Buchan, 31, from Selly Oak in Birmingham, claims £2,000 a month in benefits and has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford to pay them She was caught by bus lane cameras in Birmingham city centre, which have issued more than 80,000 fines since they were installed in September - to the anger of thousands of motorists ordered to pay the £60 sums. Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. Read mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sOFd8z7I read more Anthony Single mom of 8 on £2000 a month? Do you know how much it would cost to get the cheapest childcare for that amount of time? Many choose not to have kids, we'll need the folk around doing the basic carer jobs that low-income family children often end up doing for care as elderly. Much more of a waste of time to pay people for standing outside Buck Palace etc all day to keep the plebs out! |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On 05/02/2014 07:45, Andy Wainwright wrote:
On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote: A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. [ ... ] Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. Read mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sOFd8z7I Single mom of 8 on £2000 a month? Yes - easily. She'd hit the upper limit of $500 a week. https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/255473/dwp035.pdf Personal allowance 13/14: £71.70 Family premium: £17.40 Child rates (x 8 @£65.62) £524.96 sub-total: £614.06 Housing costs and council tax would add another £100 a week to that with no trouble at all. They'd probably come to a fair bit more than £100 a week, but the total would be at least £714.06 a week, limited by the £500 a week policy, which is the equivalent of £2166.67 a month. Do you know how much it would cost to get the cheapest childcare for that amount of time? Why would she need it? Many choose not to have kids, we'll need the folk around doing the basic carer jobs that low-income family children often end up doing for care as elderly. Ordinary people - self-supporting, with jobs - voluntarily limit the number of their children because of the costs involved (not just what has to be paid out, but also the cost of the loss of earnings). They don't need to be cajoled or remonstrated with. Much more of a waste of time to pay people for standing outside Buck Palace etc all day to keep the plebs out! What? |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On 05/02/2014 08:15, JNugent wrote:
On 05/02/2014 07:45, Andy Wainwright wrote: On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote: A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. [ ... ] Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. Read mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sOFd8z7I Single mom of 8 on £2000 a month? Yes - easily. She'd hit the upper limit of $500 a week. NB: Apologies. Above, "$" means "£". https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/255473/dwp035.pdf Personal allowance 13/14: £71.70 Family premium: £17.40 Child rates (x 8 @£65.62) £524.96 sub-total: £614.06 Housing costs and council tax would add another £100 a week to that with no trouble at all. They'd probably come to a fair bit more than £100 a week, but the total would be at least £714.06 a week, limited by the £500 a week policy, which is the equivalent of £2166.67 a month. Do you know how much it would cost to get the cheapest childcare for that amount of time? Why would she need it? Many choose not to have kids, we'll need the folk around doing the basic carer jobs that low-income family children often end up doing for care as elderly. Ordinary people - self-supporting, with jobs - voluntarily limit the number of their children because of the costs involved (not just what has to be paid out, but also the cost of the loss of earnings). They don't need to be cajoled or remonstrated with. Much more of a waste of time to pay people for standing outside Buck Palace etc all day to keep the plebs out! What? |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On 05/02/2014 08:18, JNugent wrote:
On 05/02/2014 08:15, JNugent wrote: On 05/02/2014 07:45, Andy Wainwright wrote: On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote: A single mother with eight children who receives £2,000 a month in benefits has had a string of bus lane fines slashed because she claims she can't afford to pay them. [ ... ] Having appealed on both grounds of financial hardship and that, like many who have complained, the bus lane signs are inadequate and easy to miss, Birmingham City Council has withdrawn seven of Ms Buchan's penalty notices, cutting £420 from her bill. However, the council says she must still pay £180 after she was penalised while taking Olivia to Birmingham Children’s Hospital and received the 10 fine notices in the post more than a week later. 'I made a genuine mistake,' said Ms Buchan of Selley Oak. 'I was desperate to get to the hospital and had a screaming child in the car. I was not aware there were bus lanes until the fines came through the post. Read mo http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2sOFd8z7I Single mom of 8 on £2000 a month? Yes - easily. She'd hit the upper limit of $500 a week. NB: Apologies. Above, "$" means "£". https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/255473/dwp035.pdf Personal allowance 13/14: £71.70 Family premium: £17.40 Child rates (x 8 @£65.62) £524.96 sub-total: £614.06 Housing costs and council tax would add another £100 a week to that with no trouble at all. They'd probably come to a fair bit more than £100 a week, but the total would be at least £714.06 a week, limited by the £500 a week policy, which is the equivalent of £2166.67 a month. Do you know how much it would cost to get the cheapest childcare for that amount of time? Why would she need it? Many choose not to have kids, we'll need the folk around doing the basic carer jobs that low-income family children often end up doing for care as elderly. Ordinary people - self-supporting, with jobs - voluntarily limit the number of their children because of the costs involved (not just what has to be paid out, but also the cost of the loss of earnings). They don't need to be cajoled or remonstrated with. Much more of a waste of time to pay people for standing outside Buck Palace etc all day to keep the plebs out! What? Here's the only reason why someone should have children. The only one in existance. Have a child or adopt one because you love children, caring for them and being around them. If not, don't. Some people either prefer adult company or aren't responsible enough in terms of keeping their eyes on the kids. Money makes no object. In fact as soon as we start seeing children as status symbols, i.e. a privilage to be afforded with wealth, we start breeding them like rabbits and thus trash the planet. Here's a fact, in countries with developed welfare birth rates are not only lower but much lower. With no incentive to either have kids (maybe to look after you in old age etc) or not , we end up with not too many, not to few. It really ****es me of the blatent sexism that calls single moms "unemployed"- having just one child, especially alone is the equivalent of a 20 hour working week. If you had the choice between working a week in a factory and looking after a lot of kids, unless you really love kids, the factory is the easier option. |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On 05/02/2014 08:15, JNugent wrote:
On 05/02/2014 07:45, Andy Wainwright wrote: On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote: [ ... ] Apologies to ukrc for maintaining the inapproriate cross-posting on this thread. I didn't spot the ukrc line and would have deleted the NG had I noticed it sooner. |
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Single mother-of-eight who claims £2,000 a month in state handouts has £600 of bus lane fines slashed because she says she can't afford them
On Wed, 05 Feb 2014 08:28:09 +0000, JNugent
wrote: On 05/02/2014 08:15, JNugent wrote: On 05/02/2014 07:45, Andy Wainwright wrote: On 04/02/2014 21:13, Anthony wrote: [ ... ] Apologies to ukrc for maintaining the inapproriate cross-posting on this thread. I didn't spot the ukrc line and would have deleted the NG had I noticed it sooner. You could, of course, add relevance by suggesting that the state pays a bicycle grant to single parents to improve mobility and decrease car dependence. |
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