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Old September 20th 09, 11:43 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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D.M. Procida wrote:
Brimstone wrote:

And in this case, road users will receive conflicting information
about whether it is or isn't, and some of them may only receive
information that it is a one-way road.

What conflicting information will pedestrians receive apart from a
sign at one end saying something to the effect of "No Entry, except
bicycles"?


Use a bit of imagination.

Imagine, for example, being a passenger in a car, being driven the
long way round because it's a one-way-street, being dropped off at a
shop, and then later leaving the shop to cross the road, a road in
which all the traffic appears to be travelling in one direction, and
in which all the parked cars are parked in one direction.


Except on the side where the contraflow traffic is passing.

Such a person will receive very little if any information about the
possibility of near-silent and less visible traffic coming from the
opposite direction.


Except the contraflow will be marked on the surface, and if there's no
contraflow traffic approaching then there's nothing to be concerned about.

This is just an example, but the point is that road users will receive
ambiguous, contradictory or a lack of information about the direction
of traffic. Road users don't just receive information through road
signs, by the way.

Indeed they don't which is why the vast majority of people go around with
their eyes and ears open and brains engaged and thus don't need to be
nannied.

People are not as dumb as you seem to think they are.


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Old September 20th 09, 03:41 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:32:29 +0100 someone who may be "Colin
McKenzie" wrote this:-

"no entry except
cyclists" is still an illegal sign combination in this country.


In this country the City of Edinburgh Council obtained confirmation
that such a combination is legal, before putting up many in the past
decade or so.

Other countries may vary.


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Old September 20th 09, 04:48 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Judith M Smith
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:32:29 +0100, "Colin McKenzie"
wrote:

snip



The government published guidance on how to allow contraflow cycling in
1998. What's new is trying to do it without the engineering and sign
misuse that is needed to get around the fact that "no entry except
cyclists" is still an illegal sign combination in this country.

Colin McKenzie



And your evidence for this being illegal is what please?

(uk.legal added)

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Old September 20th 09, 04:52 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 19:32:29 +0100, "Colin McKenzie"
wrote:

"no entry except
cyclists" is still an illegal sign combination in this country.


Really? Even though Chelsington have been explicitly told they are
allowed to use it?
 




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