Car deliberately used as a weapon.

Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

The court heard that Mr Dalby died after falling over and being run
over after a dispute with Myers.

Prosecutor Mark Giuliani said experts had concluded Myers, of Park
Avenue, Coxhoe, had applied the brakes before she hit Mr Dalby and
that she had been travelling at a speed of greater than 12mph."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12940693

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Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

Well, let's see, Doug:

1. He wasn't a cyclist
2. A car park isn't a road
3. A car park isn't 'the wrong place' for a car
4. It wasn't there 'at the wrong time'

Apart from that, your analysis is spot-on.

But you're right, there ought to be a law against it.


"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Oh, there is!

Norman Wells wrote:
Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our
roads and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

Well, let's see, Doug:

1. He wasn't a cyclist
2. A car park isn't a road
3. A car park isn't 'the wrong place' for a car
4. It wasn't there 'at the wrong time'

Apart from that, your analysis is spot-on.

But you're right, there ought to be a law against it.


"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Oh, there is!

and not a single mention of a bicycle, well done for yet another OT post.

On Apr 2, 6:57*am, Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes?

Good

As far as cyclists are concerned

Hands up all who are concerned about Doug's posts.

there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads

Crossbows, rifles, SPgun, ICBM, hairspray, bad hair.

and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

So you can do this in the 'right place'


"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park

Oh, so it was not a road, it was a car park (do they allow bad hair in
a car park?)

has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Are, I see now, it was a Co-op car park road.


Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

They must have all been motorists.


The court heard that Mr Dalby died after falling over and being run
over after a dispute with Myers.

Probably fell over the bike that isn't mentioned.


Prosecutor Mark Giuliani said experts had concluded Myers, of Park
Avenue, Coxhoe, had applied the brakes before she hit Mr Dalby and
that she had been travelling at a speed of greater than 12mph."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12940693

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On 02/04/2011 06:57, Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

The court heard that Mr Dalby died after falling over and being run
over after a dispute with Myers.

Prosecutor Mark Giuliani said experts had concluded Myers, of Park
Avenue, Coxhoe, had applied the brakes before she hit Mr Dalby and
that she had been travelling at a speed of greater than 12mph."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12940693


UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated).
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A driving licence is not a licence to kill, never has been.

More lies, it could not have happened, a motorist would never be charged
with manslaughter.

Doug wrote:

Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

The court heard that Mr Dalby died after falling over and being run
over after a dispute with Myers.

Prosecutor Mark Giuliani said experts had concluded Myers, of Park
Avenue, Coxhoe, had applied the brakes before she hit Mr Dalby and
that she had been travelling at a speed of greater than 12mph."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12940693

Anything can be used as a weapon if you are in that mood. A cycle is
an ideal weapon for e.g. a robbery or shooting, you can get away along
small alleyways and there is almost nothing to identify the vehicle
(cycle) in that case).

A driving licence is a licence to kill.

And so? Everyone, drivers and non-drives alike, have licence to kill since
they can carry it out with no obstruction. However, that doesn't mean that
you don't have to serve time.

On Apr 2, 6:57*am, Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

The court heard that Mr Dalby died after falling over and being run
over after a dispute with Myers.

Prosecutor Mark Giuliani said experts had concluded Myers, of Park
Avenue, Coxhoe, had applied the brakes before she hit Mr Dalby and
that she had been travelling at a speed of greater than 12mph."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-12940693

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Perhaps you should start a new newsgroup called something like
Uk.Rec.Ramming or Uk.Rec.Carweapons. then you would never be off topic.

On Apr 2, 6:57*am, Doug wrote:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

I thought that motorists never get charged with murder or
manslaughter, Doug? Oh dear, yet another GollumTheory bites the dust.

"BrianW" wrote in message
...
On Apr 2, 6:57 am, Doug ranted:
Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

:I thought that motorists never get charged with murder or
: manslaughter, Doug? Oh dear, yet another GollumTheory bites the dust.

Well running over a pedestrian on a zebra crossing used to result in a
manslaughter charge, but this law may have been superseded.

OTOH motorists have been convicted of murder, manslaughter and GBH [with
intent] for driving into pedestrians on the pavement, depending on whether
the jury considered they intended to harm anyone.

On Apr 3, 1:49*am, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:
"BrianW" wrote in message

...
On Apr 2, 6:57 am, Doug ranted:

Ramming carried to extremes? As far as cyclists are concerned there
are loads of lethal weapons out there being wielded badly on our roads
and it only takes one at the wrong time in the wrong place.

"A woman who admitted killing a man by running over him in a County
Durham car park has been jailed for five years.

Shaun Dalby, 28, died when he was hit by a Fiat Punto in the Co-op car
park in Coxhoe in February 2010.

Naomi Myers, 22, was originally charged with murder, but a guilty plea
to manslaughter was accepted at Newcastle Crown Court in February.

:I thought that motorists never get charged with murder or
: manslaughter, Doug? *Oh dear, yet another GollumTheory bites the dust..

Well running over a pedestrian on a zebra crossing used to result in a
manslaughter charge, but this law may have been superseded.

OTOH motorists have been convicted of murder, manslaughter and GBH [with
intent] for driving into pedestrians on the pavement, depending on whether
the jury considered they intended to harm anyone.

Most of the time motorists are charged with careless or dangerous
driving, when there is not intent, but instead they could be charged
with involuntary manslaughter which carries a much longer maximum
sentence. The reason they are allowed to get the softer charge is
because juries, naturally dominated by majority motorists, used to be
unwilling to convict for manslaughter.

"Motor manslaughter

Because of a reluctance by juries to convict when the charge was
manslaughter, a statutory offence of "causing death by dangerous
driving" was introduced. Following the Road Traffic Law Review
Committee (1988), the Road Traffic Act 1991 abandoned recklessness in
favour of the pre-statutory objective test of "dangerousness", i.e.
did the driving fall far below the standard of the competent and
careful driver. The Committee also recommended that manslaughter
should be an optional charge for the more serious driving cases. Note
the possibility of charging an aggravated taking without consent for
less seriously dangerous driving where death results."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manslau...in_English_law

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