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I'm thinking about getting some kind of camera to record my journeys
both on and off road. Can anyone recommend any devices and give me an idea of the costs? I'd also like to hear any advice anyone has on the subject. What things to look out for and what to avoid. |
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On 12 July, 02:17, Pip Ryder wrote:
I'm thinking about getting some kind of camera to record my journeys both on and off road. Can anyone recommend any devices and give me an idea of the costs? I'd also like to hear any advice anyone has on the subject. What things to look out for and what to avoid. Well, I advise avoiding imagining that clear and unambiguous video evidence of an assault by a motorist driving over you will help you in any way. The reason that this should be avoided is that you could be seriously injured or killed and the video will not be of any evidential value as far as several reports have described. If you want to record your journeys for your own interest, then of course you may, if think that any such video may prevent you from or any other vulnerable road user from being maimed of killed then please think again. "Vulnerable" in the context of the highway code means to a motorist, someone who I can freely drive at and be assured that no consequences will ensue. As has been described frequently on this group no one with any power to do anything about it gives a toss. We live in a Motorist Supremacist society and unless you fancy yourself as Nelson Mandella II you should make decisions on your road behaviour on that basis. Keep out of their way and bow appreciativley after being run off of the road. |
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If you want to record your journeys for your own interest, then of course you may Yes, that's precisely what I want to do. I'm always on the look out for ways to improve my cycling. In cases where a hazardous situation has arisen, I try and think back to what I could have done to make myself safer or give myself more options for an escape. It'd be nice to have a video that I could look at to study. It'd also give me opportunity to show the video to other people and ask them wat they think I could have done in that situation. |
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"Pip Ryder" wrote in message ... If you want to record your journeys for your own interest, then of course you may Yes, that's precisely what I want to do. I'm always on the look out for ways to improve my cycling. In cases where a hazardous situation has arisen, I try and think back to what I could have done to make myself safer or give myself more options for an escape. It'd be nice to have a video that I could look at to study. It'd also give me opportunity to show the video to other people and ask them wat they think I could have done in that situation. There are in the main two things which you can do to improve your cycle safety with regard to other road users. [1] Ride further into the main traffic flow. This increases your visibility to others and ensures that you are not overtaken when it is unsafe. When it is safe to be overtaken, pull back closer to the kerb (about 1 metre) but not so close to the kerb that you will be forced off the road when they come too close (they will!). [2] Watch out for anything which may suddenly appear in your path. Opening doors, pedestrians, kids between cars, cars pulling out of side roads, those jumping red lights etc. and give way to them. Always pass hazards *W*I*D*E*. This will ensure that the ****-in-a-car behind does not try to overtake (at that point) this is particularly important when passing through junctions or where the road narrows. |
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On 12 July, 02:17, Pip Ryder wrote:
I'm thinking about getting some kind of camera to record my journeys both on and off road. Can anyone recommend any devices and give me an idea of the costs? I'd also like to hear any advice anyone has on the subject. What things to look out for and what to avoid. Basic helmet cams cost from about £100; they typically take four AA cells and record onto SD or similar memory cards. These basic ones are self contained units normally no bigger than a small torch. They take perfectly good youtube quality movies, but have typically no zoom or other controls. This one seems well regarded: http://www.actioncameras.co.uk/ATC3K...cientific.html (I bought one of these for my niece who uses it in experimental theatre work; it's good for that but I have not used it on a bike). More sophisticated devices have a small camera head and a larger pack which you might put in a back pocket containing the batteries and recording equipment. The best of these will shoot professional quality HD video but the price is eye watering: http://www.actioncameras.co.uk/Sony_HXR_MC1P.html When mounted on a helmet or headband you tend to get reasonably smooth, non-jerky pictures from any camera, because we're very good at keeping our heads steady. If mounted on the bike then on anything but very smooth roads you are inevitably going to get a jerky picture, and on rough tracks vibration may make it more or less unwatchable. |
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On Jul 12, 2:17*am, Pip Ryder wrote:
I'm thinking about getting some kind of camera to record my journeys both on and off road. Can anyone recommend any devices and give me an idea of the costs? There was a feature on this in Cycle a few months back. I'll see if I can find it. -- Guy |
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
There was a feature on this in Cycle a few months back. I'll see if I can find it. Haha, thanks for pointing this out to me. I think it's the Feb-Mar 2009 issue you're referring to? I've just found it and ripped it out of it's cellophane wrapper. I rarely get time to read them |
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On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 09:10:38 +0100, Pip Ryder
wrote: I think it's the Feb-Mar 2009 issue you're referring to? I've just found it and ripped it out of it's cellophane wrapper. I rarely get time to read them That'll save me making a PDF for you then... Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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bod43 wrote:
We live in a Motorist Supremacist society and unless you fancy yourself as Nelson Mandella II you should make decisions on your road behaviour on that basis. Keep out of their way and bow appreciativley after being run off of the road. Nice one- we're back to 'cycling Bantustans' ;-) (no, for those who don't understand you bloody well ought to ,now go and look it up) -- Come to Dave & Boris - your cycle security experts. |
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Pip Ryder wrote:
If you want to record your journeys for your own interest, then of course you may Yes, that's precisely what I want to do. I'm always on the look out for ways to improve my cycling. In cases where a hazardous situation has arisen, I try and think back to what I could have done to make myself safer or give myself more options for an escape. It'd be nice to have a video that I could look at to study. It'd also give me opportunity to show the video to other people and ask them wat they think I could have done in that situation. Every now and then as an exercise I try to cycle with the attitude that concealed somewhere in the traffic stream is a gang of assassins who at any moment may mount a co-ordinated attempt to kill me which would appear to be a simple accident which could be blamed on not having seen me. The important thing is to have escape routes available and the time to use them. Mostly there are, and often when there aren't simple changes in position and speed by me can create the needed space and time. I find it difficult, exhausting, but very educational. I also note that my last car-cycle accident, which damaged my bike severely but luckily not me, was actually foreseen by me as a possibility as I approached the car with with its nose sticking out of the side road into the traffic stream, and into my path. I also noticed that if I passed in front of it I wouldn't have time to avoid being rammed. As I have trained myself to do, I quickly realised that there was a safe way of foiling the assassination -- by turning into the same side street in order to go round the back of the car with plenty of time and space for avoidance. But I was feeling tired and lazy and in no mood to take such an extreme precaution against such an unlikely accident. So I simply told myself not be silly and paranoid and just cycle past. The car suddenly shot forwards and rammed me broadside. My bike ended up under its wheels, but I luckily I bounced off the bonnet instead. First car-cycle accident I've had in decades. Obviously I need to take my own advice more seriously. -- Chris Malcolm |
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