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Doug, was this you?
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:09:33 +0100, John Wright wrote: Cars don't drive on pavements unless something is seriously amiss or there is a legal arrangement in place for them to drive over the pavement. I think you'll find on investigation that that is what is technically known as "complete ********". The most common reason for car drivers using the pavement is to park on it, but they also use it to get round queues at traffic lights and in other situations. That's whe there are bollards on the pavement edge near my house, and bollards up the pavement along the North Circular Road, to name just two locations. Ask your council what is the main cause of damage to pavements. And they'll inevitably say "cars" - rather than admit the true reason. The real reason is usually poor installation. The evidence is that they are /also/ damaged in places where cars cannot physically get. Take a look next time you are walking on one. There will be cracked and uneven slabs behind telephone boxes, in-between the two poles of road signs, behind bollards, up steps, behind and between planters, under benches... To blame cars is to attempt to create a scapegoat for bad workmanship and poor maintenance. -- Matt B |
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Doug, was this you?
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW
wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...pensioner.html Are you *sure* you are not obsessed with him? What is it - a sexual attraction? -- The BMA (British Medical Association) urges legislation to make the wearing of cycle helmets compulsory for both adults and children. The evidence from those countries where compulsory cycle helmet use has already been introduced is that such legislation has a beneficial effect on cycle-related deaths and head injuries. This strongly supports the case for introducing legislation in the UK. Such legislation should result in a reduction in the morbidity and mortality associated with cycling accidents. |
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Doug, was this you?
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW
wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...pensioner.html What can't a charge of manslaughter be considered where a death has been caused by negligent behaviour be it by motor vehicle driver, motorcyclist, cyclist, mobility scooter driver, or even a runner. All that should be need to be proved is that the standard of care for others' safety fell far below that which could be considered reasonable. |
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Doug, was this you?
On 19 Sep, 18:04, Tom Crispin
wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...andorder/62070... What can't a charge of manslaughter be considered where a death has been caused by negligent behaviour be it by motor vehicle driver, motorcyclist, cyclist, mobility scooter driver, or even a runner. All that should be need to be proved is that the standard of care for others' safety fell far below that which could be considered reasonable. It can. However, it requires that the negligence was gross - an "ordinary" level of negligence (such as that required in a civil action) does not suffice. It is an issue for the jury to decide, but it is quite a large hurdle for the prosecution to overcome. I note that in this case, the prosecution sought to bring a charge of "careless", rather than "dangerous" driving. That would suggest that the gross negligence threshold would not have been satisfied. |
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Doug, was this you?
On 19 Sep, 13:51, Judith M Smith wrote:
On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...andorder/62070... Are you *sure* you are not obsessed with him? What is it - a sexual *attraction? Blackhead is blinded by obsessive love turned sour. So much so in his confused state he has targeted the wrong person! There must be a sexual component there surely? Anyway, back on topic, I have been posting elsewhere about discrimination against disabled cyclists and this case clearly illustrates my point. Cars and mobility scooters on pavements are much more dangerous that bicycles but all we seem to hear about is cycling on pavements. -- UK Radical Campaigns www.zing.icom43.net A driving licence is a licence to kill. |
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Doug, was this you?
On 20 Sep, 06:59, Doug wrote:
On 19 Sep, 13:51, Judith M Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...andorder/62070.... Are you *sure* you are not obsessed with him? What is it - a sexual �attraction? Blackhead is blinded by obsessive love turned sour. So much so in his confused state he has targeted the wrong person! There must be a sexual component there surely? Yup, I'm in lurve with this old turd: http://www.flickr.com/photos/8737107@N04/3742475633/ Next time you see him, Doug, would you tell him? |
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Doug, was this you?
Doug wrote:
On 19 Sep, 13:51, Judith M Smith wrote: On Sat, 19 Sep 2009 05:23:49 -0700 (PDT), BrianW wrote: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/news...andorder/62070... Are you *sure* you are not obsessed with him? What is it - a sexual attraction? Blackhead is blinded by obsessive love turned sour. So much so in his confused state he has targeted the wrong person! There must be a sexual component there surely? Anyway, back on topic, I have been posting elsewhere about discrimination against disabled cyclists and this case clearly illustrates my point. Cars and mobility scooters on pavements are much more dangerous that bicycles but all we seem to hear about is cycling on pavements. Cars don't drive on pavements unless something is seriously amiss or there is a legal arrangement in place for them to drive over the pavement. Cyclists and mobility scooters appear to do it as a matter of course. -- People like you are the reason people like me have to take medication. ?John Wright |
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Doug, was this you?
"John Wright" wrote in message ... ..... Cars don't drive on pavements unless something is seriously amiss or there is a legal arrangement in place for them to drive over the pavement. Cyclists and mobility scooters appear to do it as a matter of course. Single speed mobility scooters are legally required to use the pavement and are only allowed on the road for specific purposes, such as crossing it.. Two speed scooters are permitted to use the pavement at their lower speed of 4mph. Colin Bignell |
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Doug, was this you?
On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:59:31 +0100, nightjar cpb@ wrote:
"John Wright" wrote in message ... .... Cars don't drive on pavements unless something is seriously amiss or there is a legal arrangement in place for them to drive over the pavement. Cyclists and mobility scooters appear to do it as a matter of course. Single speed mobility scooters are legally required to use the pavement and are only allowed on the road for specific purposes, such as crossing it.. Are you sure about that? The Highway code says Class 2 (the 4mph jobbies) should always use the footway when it is available - it doesn't say MUST. But your rebuttal of the PP was in essence correct - class 2 scooters are legal to drive on any pedestrian footway and are encouraged to do so as it is considered safer to do so. -- Andy Leighton = "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ |
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