Yet another killer pavement motorist.

The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases
of pavement motoring is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on
roads? We know that cyclists choose to use pavements because of their
understandable fear of roads but surely they would increase safety by
naturally slowing down drivers on roads?

"Two men have been arrested after a man died and three people were
hurt in a crash in the Black Country.

Police said a silver car crashed into a wall in Tipton Road, Dudley,
at about 2215 BST on Friday.

One of the occupants, a 24-year-old man, had a cardiac arrest and was
pronounced dead in hospital.

Another person is thought to be critical. Two men, aged 24 and 22,
from a second car, are being held on suspicion of dangerous driving.

West Midlands Ambulance Service said a man in his 20s had serious head
injuries and was found unconscious.

Another man, thought to be aged 21, had serious head injuries and
suspected fractures and a woman, aged 18, had serious leg, hip and
facial injuries, it added.

Anyone with information about the crash is asked to contact West
Midlands Police or Crimestoppers anonymously."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-13023885
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/l...al.asp?id=3939

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On 10/04/2011 06:37, Doug wrote:
The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases
of pavement motoring is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on
roads? We know that cyclists choose to use pavements because of their
understandable fear of roads but surely they would increase safety by
naturally slowing down drivers on roads?

No, pavements are not safer than roads. There are far too many hazards
(people) and the cyclist needs to give way at every junction. A simple T
junction and the cyclist needs to give way to traffic entering and
leaving the junction but if they were on the main carriageway, they
could sail straight through. Cycle facilities are often little better.

The simplest way to calm traffic is to ride on the road. Most drivers
will slow down and pass wide so long as the cyclist is far enough away
from the kerb.

The only exception seems to be where the road is fairly wide and it
accommodates higher speed traffic. If you ride away from the kerb some
cars will pass close and fast, if you ride close to the kerb some cars
will pass close and fast, and if you ride in the middle of the lane some
cars will pass close and fast and abuse will be hurled out of the
window. These are the roads where proper cycle lane facilities are needed.

Doug gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases of
pavement motoring is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on roads?

We know that cyclists choose to use pavements
Police said a silver car crashed into a wall

See? That bit there. THAT is the difference.

One of the occupants, a 24-year-old man, had a cardiac arrest and was
pronounced dead in hospital.

So not only was the only dead person an occupant in the car, and not a
pedestrian, cyclist or other innocent bystander - but they died of
NATURAL CAUSES, not injuries from the crash.

On 10/04/2011 06:37, Doug wrote:
The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases
of pavement motoring is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on
roads? We know that cyclists choose to use pavements because of their
understandable fear of roads but surely they would increase safety by
naturally slowing down drivers on roads?

"Two men have been arrested after a man died and three people were
hurt in a crash in the Black Country.

Police said a silver car crashed into a wall in Tipton Road, Dudley,
at about 2215 BST on Friday.

One of the occupants, a 24-year-old man, had a cardiac arrest and was
pronounced dead in hospital.

Another person is thought to be critical. Two men, aged 24 and 22,
from a second car, are being held on suspicion of dangerous driving.

West Midlands Ambulance Service said a man in his 20s had serious head
injuries and was found unconscious.

Another man, thought to be aged 21, had serious head injuries and
suspected fractures and a woman, aged 18, had serious leg, hip and
facial injuries, it added.

Anyone with information about the crash is asked to contact West
Midlands Police or Crimestoppers anonymously."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ngham-13023885
http://www.west-midlands.police.uk/l...al.asp?id=3939


UK Radical Campaigns.(Recently updated).
http://www.zing.icom43.net
A driving licence is not a licence to kill, never has been.

Would it be possible for you to post the whole report, as you missed out
the bit about cycling.

On Apr 10, 6:37*am, Doug wrote:
The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases
of pavement motoring is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on
roads?

Sounds as thought they aren't, Doug. Better obey the law, then, and
cycle on the road, eh?

Adrian wrote:

So not only was the only dead person an occupant in the car, and not a
pedestrian, cyclist or other innocent bystander - but they died of
NATURAL CAUSES, not injuries from the crash.

The cardiac arrest may have been due to the aorta coming adrift, etc.
Sounds like two cars racing. Bloody stupid way to die.




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"Doug" wrote in message
...

Yet another!

Why isn't there a law against this kind of thing?

Mr. Benn wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...

Yet another!

Why isn't there a law against this kind of thing?

exactly, it should be a legal requirement that cyclists are positioned at ll
appropriate points on the pavement to protect street furniture.

Mrcheerful wrote:
Mr. Benn wrote:
"Doug" wrote in message
...

Yet another!

Why isn't there a law against this kind of thing?

exactly, it should be a legal requirement that cyclists are
positioned at ll appropriate points on the pavement to protect street
furniture.

A sort of human shield for something more valuable then?

On 10/04/2011 06:37, Doug wrote:

Completely off topic as usual because no ****wit cyclists were involved.

The question that must be asked, in the light of this and other cases
of pavement motoring

Its not pavement motoring retard. The vehicle was not traveling along
the pavement like a cyclist.


is, are cyclists any safer on pavements than on
roads? We know that cyclists choose to use pavements because of their
understandable fear of roads

Wrong. They use pavements because they are arrogant anti social law
braking scum who will go to any lengths to reduce the journey times of
their non viable form of transport.

but surely they would increase safety by
naturally slowing down drivers on roads?

You mean causing an obstruction.



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