Pavement motorist who used car as a 'Fearsome Weapon' jailed indefinitely.

Seems the justice system got it about right for a change. Instead of
the more usual slap on the wrist for 'dangerous driving' this motorist
was given a lifetime driving ban, an indefinite jail sentence and the
judge acknowledge that a car can be used as a weapon. I wonder if a
bicycle on a pavement could injure as many people? Oh, and his car was
also 'driven along' the pavement, for those who argue that this never
ever happens.

"A man who ploughed into a crowd of revellers outside a bar in
Rochdale has been jailed indefinitely.

Lee Anthony Bradley, 26, drove along the pavement next to the Dali bar
in a stolen Saab 93 in the early hours of 17 October, after being
thrown out.

He knocked down bystanders "like skittles", police have said. Fourteen
people were taken to hospital.

Bradley, of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to a string of offences at
an earlier hearing at Bolton Crown Court.

He admitted attempting to cause grievous bodily harm with intent, two
counts of section 20 assault, 10 other assaults, aggravated taking of
a motor vehicle without consent and dangerous driving.

He also asked the judge to take into consideration eight other
offences..."

"...Passing sentence, Judge Morris said: "You were deliberately using
this motor vehicle as a weapon, a fearsome weapon..."

Mo
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-13467514

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On 21/05/2011 06:21, Doug wrote:


Yet more OT bollox. No cyclists involved.

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Dave - Cyclists VOR.

Doug wrote:

Seems the justice system got it about right for a change.

So you were wrong as usual then.

Instead of
the more usual slap on the wrist for 'dangerous driving' this motorist
was given a lifetime driving ban, an indefinite jail sentence and the
judge acknowledge that a car can be used as a weapon.

Anything can be used as a weapon in the hands of someone intent on using it
as such.

I wonder if a
bicycle on a pavement could injure as many people? Oh, and his car was
also 'driven along' the pavement, for those who argue that this never
ever happens.

Well, there's a revelation! Cars can be driven along pavements if someone
is determined to do so. I'm astonished.

"A man who ploughed into a crowd of revellers outside a bar in
Rochdale has been jailed indefinitely.

Good. Anyone disagree?

No? Didn't think so.

Lee Anthony Bradley, 26, drove along the pavement next to the Dali bar
in a stolen Saab 93 in the early hours of 17 October, after being
thrown out.

He knocked down bystanders "like skittles", police have said. Fourteen
people were taken to hospital.

Bradley, of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to a string of offences at
an earlier hearing at Bolton Crown Court.

Yes. There ought to be a law against it.

And look! There is.

On May 21, 8:57*am, "Norman Wells" wrote:

He knocked down bystanders "like skittles", police have said. Fourteen
people were taken to hospital.

Bradley, of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to a string of offences at
an earlier hearing at Bolton Crown Court.

Yes. *There ought to be a law against it.

And look! *There is.

I think you've missed the point that a *realistic* sentence was meted
out for a change rather than the usual slap on the wrist like the
driver in Rhyl who killed 4 cyclists by driving too fast on ice, who
just got done for 3 bald tyres and walked away.

--
Simon Mason

On 21/05/2011 12:15, Simon Mason wrote:

On May 21, 8:57 am, "Norman wrote:

He knocked down bystanders "like skittles", police have said. Fourteen
people were taken to hospital.
Bradley, of no fixed abode, pleaded guilty to a string of offences at
an earlier hearing at Bolton Crown Court.

Yes. There ought to be a law against it.
And look! There is.

I think you've missed the point that a *realistic* sentence was meted
out for a change rather than the usual slap on the wrist like the
driver in Rhyl who killed 4 cyclists by driving too fast on ice, who
just got done for 3 bald tyres and walked away.

Both sentences were realistic and appropriate.

This recent one was a deliberate and apalling attempt at causing death and/or
injury.

The other case was an accident (except for the offence connected with the tyres).

Only nutters want accidents treated in the same way as attempted murder or
similar.

Over to you...

Doug wrote:

Seems the justice system got it about right for a change. Instead of
the more usual slap on the wrist for 'dangerous driving' this motorist
was given a lifetime driving ban, an indefinite jail sentence and the
judge acknowledge that a car can be used as a weapon. I wonder if a
bicycle on a pavement could injure as many people? Oh, and his car was
also 'driven along' the pavement, for those who argue that this never
ever happens.


In the news today, a man rode a bicycle down Waterman street in Leeds,
and shot 6 people with an automatic pistol. Pressure groups are calling
for the banning of cycles to stop atrocities like this occuring again.
Police spokesman Neimor Peddlin, said it is time for the common people
to take a step towards the prevention of outrages such as this.

--

On May 21, 6:21*am, Doug wrote:
Seems the justice system got it about right for a change. Instead of
the more usual slap on the wrist for 'dangerous driving' this motorist
was given a lifetime driving ban, an indefinite jail sentence and the
judge acknowledge that a car can be used as a weapon. I wonder if a
bicycle on a pavement could injure as many people? Oh, and his car was
also 'driven along' the pavement, for those who argue that this never
ever happens.

Lee Anthony Bradley, 26, drove along the pavement next to the Dali bar
in a stolen Saab 93 in the early hours of 17 October, after being
thrown out.

"...Passing sentence, Judge Morris said: "You were deliberately using
this motor vehicle as a weapon, a fearsome weapon..."

Yes, it is noticeable due to its obscurity. Bradley deliberately set
out to steal a car, and then use it as a weapon in an apparent act of
revenge. How often does that happen?
Quite rightly he got an indefinite sentence, with a lifetime driving
ban.

Mohttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...ester-13467514

On Sat, 21 May 2011 04:15:43 -0700 (PDT)
Simon Mason wrote:

I think you've missed the point that a *realistic* sentence was meted
out for a change rather than the usual slap on the wrist like the
driver in Rhyl who killed 4 cyclists by driving too fast on ice, who
just got done for 3 bald tyres and walked away.

That will be because he's a homeless person with a history of serious
violent crime and stole a car to commit this one - a decent citizen who
kills someone through careless or even reckless behaviour while
driving his own vehicle probably wouldn't get done for it.

On May 21, 3:04*pm, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2011 04:15:43 -0700 (PDT)

Simon Mason wrote:
I think you've missed the point that a *realistic* sentence was meted
out for a change rather than the usual slap on the wrist like the
driver in Rhyl who killed 4 cyclists by driving too fast on ice, who
just got done for 3 bald tyres and walked away.

That will be because he's a homeless person with a history of serious
violent crime and stole a car to commit this one - a decent citizen who
kills someone through careless or even reckless behaviour while
driving his own vehicle probably wouldn't get done for it.

Indeed. Officer Skinner the expert who investigated the Rhyl case
stated that the deaths were far from being a mere "accident."

Quote:

THE driver of a car who killed four members of Rhyl Cycling Club when
he lost
control on ice "could have avoided them" – an expert claimed
yesterday.
A collision investigator told the inquest into the deaths of the
cyclists on the
A547 near Abergele that Robert Harris should have had full control of
his car
after the initial skid.

PC George Skinner also blamed Mr Harris, of Abergele, for failing to
drive at an
appropriate speed for the road conditions and said that had he done
so, the
accident could have been avoided.

PC Skinner arrived on the scene within half an hour of the tragedy and
confirmed
some ice on the road.

But he said yesterday that the ice was on the road only in patches,
and that
there were enough dry patches on the road for Mr Harris to regain
control of his
vehicle.

He said Mr Harris should have paid attention to freezing conditions
that
morning, and not driven at 55mph, his estimated speed before the
crash.
"It would have to be accepted that he failed to observe the ambient
temperature
display in his vehicle," the officer said.

"He set off on his journey having scraped ice off the window of his
car, and
subsequently drove through countryside where visible frost lay.
"He drove in an inappropriate manner for the prevailing conditions."
But he added: "In my opinion, there was sufficient grip available to
the driver
to control the vehicle.

"Had he driven according to the prevailing road conditions, as had the
vast
majority of motorists before this collision, then I am of the opinion
this
collision could have been avoided."

Mr Harris had told the hearing last week that his car slipped on ice
and he was
powerless to stop the vehicle veering into the cyclists’ path on the
A547.
He had been driving from his Abergele home to work as a security guard
at B&Q in
Rhyl when the collision happened last January. He told police in the
days after
the crash: "I just lost control – I tried to counter the skid.
"All I could think of was not to hit them."

Last August, Mr Harris was fined and handed points for having three
defective
tyres, although PC Skinner said they played no part in the handling of
the car
on the day of the tragedy. The inquest also heard that the force of
the collision projected Wayne Wilkes 37
metres into an adjoining field, and Dave Horrocks 31 metres. Ends.

Even the driver himself admitted driving too fast for the conditions
by stating -"I just lost control" but he got a small fine for the bald
tyres and walked away having killed 4 people through his own
incompetent driving.


http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/in-d...5578-19356834/

--
Simon Mason

On Sat, 21 May 2011 07:15:40 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

On May 21, 3:04*pm, Rob Morley wrote:
On Sat, 21 May 2011 04:15:43 -0700 (PDT)

Simon Mason wrote:
I think you've missed the point that a *realistic* sentence was meted
out for a change rather than the usual slap on the wrist like the
driver in Rhyl who killed 4 cyclists by driving too fast on ice, who
just got done for 3 bald tyres and walked away.

That will be because he's a homeless person with a history of serious
violent crime and stole a car to commit this one - a decent citizen who
kills someone through careless or even reckless behaviour while
driving his own vehicle probably wouldn't get done for it.

Indeed. Officer Skinner the expert who investigated the Rhyl case
stated that the deaths were far from being a mere "accident."

Quote:

THE driver of a car who killed four members of Rhyl Cycling Club when
he lost
control on ice "could have avoided them" – an expert claimed
yesterday.



But surely cycling is quite safe - and there is no reason at all why they
should have been hit by any car at all - it must have just been bad luck.

That is of course what you tell us at every opportunity.

Or are you saying it can be dangerous being a cyclist - and you can even get
killed?

Simple really.

--
Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists.
This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users.
The actions of a true psycholist.