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.....just incompetence
I had two close calls in less than half a mile - first, a van overtaking another van, coming in the opposite direction, making me brake to almost walking pace to avoid a head on collision. Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close that the 'bow wave' from his car significantly made me wobble (I suspect his mirror passed my elbow within 3 inches, the car was probably doing 60 mph). I think perhaps there needs to be an information campaign on how to safely overtake other road users. -- From the sunny Isle of Man. Yes, the Reply-To email address is valid. |
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I think perhaps there needs to be an information campaign on how to safely overtake other road users. Agreed. I took my driving test only two years ago. Dealing with bikes and horses was only mentioned in the theory test, not when actually on the road. I tend to approach a bike pretty much the same way as a horse but not quite as slow. I think drivers need to realise they need the same sort of caution as both of us 'don't dent', as a wonderful campaign by a young horsewoman says. |
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Dylan Smith wrote:
Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close that the 'bow wave' from his car significantly made me wobble (I suspect his mirror passed my elbow within 3 inches, the car was probably doing 60 mph). Yes, clearly a menace. However when I'm overtaking cyclists in my car on roads with restricted visibility /and/ more vehicles behind me I keep on the right for a good way in front (if safe to do so) because I can see the road ahead is clear and so if I'm there the vehicles behind know they can safely use the RH side of the road when from where they are they can't see ahead far enough to be certain. -- Peter Fox Beer, dancing, cycling and lots more at www.eminent.demon.co.uk |
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Peter Fox wrote:
Dylan Smith wrote: Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close that the 'bow wave' from his car significantly made me wobble (I suspect his mirror passed my elbow within 3 inches, the car was probably doing 60 mph). Yes, clearly a menace. However when I'm overtaking cyclists in my car on roads with restricted visibility /and/ more vehicles behind me I keep on the right for a good way in front (if safe to do so) because I can see the road ahead is clear and so if I'm there the vehicles behind know they can safely use the RH side of the road when from where they are they can't see ahead far enough to be certain. If the leading vehicle in a line of overtakers has a sufficiently good view of a *clear* road ahead, that is always a good idea - no matter what is being overtaken - and as long as following drivers are quick on the uptake. |
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On Oct 25, 11:05 am, Dylan Smith wrote:
....just incompetence I had two close calls in less than half a mile - first, a van overtaking another van, coming in the opposite direction, making me brake to almost walking pace to avoid a head on collision. Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close I get this regularly, not necessarily cutting so close, but cars moving away as they pass, making it fully to the right only 20 yards ahead. A truck driver got it right yesterday, at least as far as I was concerned. Out at a proper passing distance as he went past, didn't cut back in - in fact stayed out so long that he made a car coming the other way brake sharply. Less than perfect driving, but if motorised vehicles are going to get too close to something, it should be the one with air bags and seat belts rather than vulnerable road users. Rob |
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On 25 Oct, 17:23, Tony Raven wrote:
In article , says... ....just incompetence I had two close calls in less than half a mile - first, a van overtaking another van, coming in the opposite direction, making me brake to almost walking pace to avoid a head on collision. Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close that the 'bow wave' from his car significantly made me wobble (I suspect his mirror passed my elbow within 3 inches, the car was probably doing 60 mph). I think perhaps there needs to be an information campaign on how to safely overtake other road users. Today it was silver Merc drivers with me - two of them. The first tried to overtake me in London as the road was narrowing so had to pull back over too soon. I caught him at the next traffic light and tapped on his window to ask if he got pleasure out of reaching the red light five seconds earlier by cutting me up. He claimed he didn't realise he'd done it so I used the line that if he'd hit me he would have a scratch on his paintwork while my children would have been visiting their Dad in hospital. That seemed to connect with him and got profuse apologies. The next silver Merc used the cycle lane line as the stop line coming out of a side street. I stopped (deliberately) with my front wheel against his front wing and again knocked on the window and had a conversation. Hopefully two silver Merc drivers will now think a little more about cyclists but somehow I doubt it. -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you worry that someone is going to get aggressive with you when you consider reprimanding them? |
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In article m, asrl07
@yahoo.co.uk says... On 25 Oct, 17:23, Tony Raven wrote: In article , says... ....just incompetence I had two close calls in less than half a mile - first, a van overtaking another van, coming in the opposite direction, making me brake to almost walking pace to avoid a head on collision. Then a driver who certainly had his or her heart in the right place. Pity he was giving me the whole width of the road about 50 yards ahead of where I was, not when actually passing me. When he was actually passing me, he was so close that the 'bow wave' from his car significantly made me wobble (I suspect his mirror passed my elbow within 3 inches, the car was probably doing 60 mph). I think perhaps there needs to be an information campaign on how to safely overtake other road users. Today it was silver Merc drivers with me - two of them. The first tried to overtake me in London as the road was narrowing so had to pull back over too soon. I caught him at the next traffic light and tapped on his window to ask if he got pleasure out of reaching the red light five seconds earlier by cutting me up. He claimed he didn't realise he'd done it so I used the line that if he'd hit me he would have a scratch on his paintwork while my children would have been visiting their Dad in hospital. That seemed to connect with him and got profuse apologies. The next silver Merc used the cycle lane line as the stop line coming out of a side street. I stopped (deliberately) with my front wheel against his front wing and again knocked on the window and had a conversation. Hopefully two silver Merc drivers will now think a little more about cyclists but somehow I doubt it. -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do you worry that someone is going to get aggressive with you when you consider reprimanding them? I did have a truck driver climb out his cab to come and remonstrate with me for not using a psyclepath once but as soon as I stood all of my 6'6" height up from my bicycle he backed off. -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell |
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Adam Lea wrote:
Do you worry that someone is going to get aggressive with you when you consider reprimanding them? stereotyping That's black BMWs. /stereotyping I think I only had two 'pass too close' incidents today in about 30 miles of London riding: one from in front and one from behind. The latter had heaps of road available but chose not to use it. It really isn't that bad out there. Colin McKenzie -- No-one has ever proved that cycle helmets make cycling any safer at the population level, and anyway cycling is about as safe per mile as walking. Make an informed choice - visit www.cyclehelmets.org. |
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Adam Lea wrote:
On 25 Oct, 17:23, Tony Raven wrote: Hopefully two silver Merc drivers will now think a little more about cyclists but somehow I doubt it. Do you worry that someone is going to get aggressive with you when you consider reprimanding them? In my experience, if I approach people calmly and politely they react calmly and politely. Cheers, Luke, driver of a silver Merc -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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