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October 24th 04, 06:53 PM
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What do you think that was if not a wire? "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story. 
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October 24th 04, 07:55 PM
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There are actually a few tracks to this story:
Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story.
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#1114
October 24th 04, 09:46 PM
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It only became visible when he adjusted his tie...
Did you even watch the video? "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Rick Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story.
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October 25th 04, 01:19 AM
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In article ,
says... It only became visible when he adjusted his tie... Did you even watch the video? Did you think about what I wrote? Why would someone use a device that requires wires outside his shirt when they can easily be placed inside his shirt? You may not agree with what the administration is doing, but don't make the mistake of believing that they are stupid. I didn't watch the video because I don't believe they are stupid enough to use visible wires when they have better alternatives. Rick "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... There are actually a few tracks to this story: Undoubtedly. Imaginations are fertile. My point is simply that it is ridiculous to assume anyone wiring GWB would do so using visible wires when visible wiring is totally unnecessary and would be unbelievably careless or naive. Rick Health issue, anomoly, wire, et al http://puppetstring.blogspot.com/ http://cannonfire.blogspot.com/ http://isbushwired.com/ http://bushwired.blogspot.com/ http://bushbulge.com/ http://bushsdefibrillator.blogspot.com http://politicalcommentator.blogspot.com/ "Java Man" wrote in message ble.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. This ain't it. Rick "Mark Hickey" wrote in message ... (political commentary) wrote: There is even more evidence about the debate wires coming out he http://puppetstring.blogspot.com Thats a wire.... bicycle mechanics, you see wires, that a wire? Heh... I've seen some nonsensical conspiracy theories, but suggesting that GWB wore "a wire" to a debate... 1) when the same audio could be picked up on any TV set in the US 2) with a connection cable the (apparent) size of a brake cable outer (bike content) 3) inexplicably routed outside his shirt 4) that somehow disappeared from other camera angles I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame (George Herbert Walker) wrote in message e.com... Ronsonic wrote in message . .. A teeneaged boy was told that he was a security risk because he had a Kerry sticker on his wallet when searched by the Secret Service. If you have any Kerry-Edwards material in your possession, you are deemed to be a security risk and are threatened with arrest. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4076497 After the rampages from Kerry's goons this last week that isn't a stretch. Rove's newest scheme? Not long ago, Karl Rove told Sean Hannity "We've got a couple of surprises that we intend to spring." Perhaps we can glimpse the outlines of one of those surprises. Across the country, Bush campaign headquarters have been shot at, attacked, and burgled. None of these attacks have prospered the Kerry campaign in any way. Each incident has admirably served Karl Rove's propaganda purposes. In a previous election, he once staged a "bugging" of his own candidate. One of the most recent office assaults took place in Knoxville, Tennessee, where a drive-by shooter put two rounds into a Bush/Cheney headquarters. As we have noted in one of yesterday's post, this same office played a key role in an apparent hoax connected to the "mystery bulge" controversy. The purpose of the hoax remains unclear. I suspect that the intention was to sidetrack any investigators looking into the issue, just as legitimate concerns over Bush's National Guard service were sidetracked by the CBS debacle. Another senseless attack took place at the Charlestown, South Carolina G.O.P. office. News reporters covering that story dealt with the mysterious Phil Parlock, previously linked to a number of obviously-faked "attacks" by alleged Democrats. In one of these attacks, Parlock's son played the role of a violently enraged unionist. "Enraged unionists" from the AFL-CIO allegedly spearheaded mob action against various Bush offices on October 5. While these apparently began as legitimate protests, everyone old enough to recall the protests of the '60s will know the danger of the agent provocateur. # posted by Joseph : 1:33 AM www.cannonfire.blogspot.com/ for the active links (sorry, to lazy to paste them in) Also see www.isbushwired.com for a similar analysis of another Rove scheme to discredit the "Bush is Wired" story.
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October 25th 04, 05:38 AM
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Here is a video of Bush crashing as he promises there will not be an
all volunteer army: http://tinyurl.com/4jbqm and another that reiterates what has gone wrong in Washington: http://tinyurl.com/b5e3 Click on CIA Culpa. You may think this is comedy but it is dead serious, in spite of the smirk. Jobst Brandt
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#1117
October 25th 04, 06:27 AM
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Java Man wrote in message able.net...
In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. Look elsewhere for evidence or wiring the pres. There's plenty of that. "Let me finish!" Just one example of many. Check out the standard sites.
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October 25th 04, 03:20 PM
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Tom Sherman wrote:
Mark Hickey wrote: ... I can't WAIT until this election is over so the level of nonsense returns to normal.... So you must be a Kerry supporter then, since we have had four years of policy nonsense from the Cheney/Bush II administration. No, I've seen the record of 20 sense of nonsense from the other candidate and am not impressed. Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame
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October 25th 04, 03:23 PM
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(George Herbert Walker) wrote:
Java Man wrote in message able.net... In article , says... What do you think that was if not a wire? Wrong question. If someone wanted to wire GWB for the debates, it would not have been necessary to put a wire in ANY location where it could be visible. If you mean the putative wire under the tie, I agree. If you mean the bulge and wire on the back, I disagree. The device is small but a wire has to run from it to the induction wire around the neck. There aren't too many places to put it, and that wire must go up to and around the neck. Recall though that the Bushies insisted on a regulation for the debate that no shots should be taken from behind. They also insisted on a regulation that there should be a private room just off stage for each candidate to have a staffer. So you're suggesting that the President of the US can't find someone to hook him up with a "wire" that's as sophisticated as something I could cobble together with stuff in my garage (if I were to actually buy something, I'd simply use connection wiring that would be virtually invisible under TV conditions). And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt (I know - he had a trick electric tie, but it failed to squirt water across the stage at Kerry...). You conspiracy theorists are entertaining though... Mark Hickey Habanero Cycles http://www.habcycles.com Home of the $695 ti frame
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October 25th 04, 03:53 PM
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Mark Hickey wrote:
And one would have to wonder why they'd route the thing OUTSIDE his shirt (I know - he had a trick electric tie, but it failed to squirt water across the stage at Kerry...). You conspiracy theorists are entertaining though... It's pretty obvious what the wire was: http://www.mightypets.com/subcat.asp?0=208 Dick Cheney carries the remote. Now we know the reason for W's funny faces during the first debate. -- terry morse Palo Alto, CA http://bike.terrymorse.com/
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