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Now we know what cycle lanes are for
According to http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=620672005
Spokes member Ian Maxwell said the group had had more complaints about parking near the ERI than anywhere else in the city. He said that parking in cycling lanes was "dangerous" and "completely destroys" their aim of stopping cyclists getting in the way of vehicles. Note the clever use of quotation marks. I suspect that Ian said something very different. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me by using the RIP Act 2000. |
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David Hansen wrote in
: Note the clever use of quotation marks. I suspect that Ian said something very different. Never! Not the Scotsman we all know and love, twist somebody's words so they say something completely different? That's not the fine upstanding journalism we've come to expect from... oh hang on, as you were remembers numerous incidences of misrepresentaion |
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Graeme wrote:
David Hansen wrote in : Note the clever use of quotation marks. I suspect that Ian said something very different. Never! Not the Scotsman we all know and love, twist somebody's words so they say something completely different? That's not the fine upstanding journalism we've come to expect from... oh hang on, as you were remembers numerous incidences of misrepresentaion The Scotsman (and their wierd owners) just lurve cars. Are there figures for what % of their advertising revenue is from cars and planes? - dont bite the hand that feeds you. |
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David Hansen wrote:
According to http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=620672005 Same article in the Herald and Post this week. |
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"stupot" wrote in message ... David Hansen wrote: According to http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=620672005 Same article in the Herald and Post this week. So these cars are, apparently, parking perfectly legally with the Orders currently in force for that road (which is, apparently, none). Not a lot different, then, to cyclists legally using the road when a cycle path is provided? Both cases are legal, but demonstrate a lack of consideration for others. -- IanH |
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ian henden wrote:
So these cars are, apparently, parking perfectly legally with the Orders currently in force for that road (which is, apparently, none). Not a lot different, then, to cyclists legally using the road when a cycle path is provided? Both cases are legal, but demonstrate a lack of consideration for others. A lack of consideration by the local council for cyclists' safety, probably. We don't ask for the bloody things. |
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"ian henden" wrote in message ... Not a lot different, then, to cyclists legally using the road when a cycle path is provided? Both cases are legal, but demonstrate a lack of consideration for others. Since travelling anywhere using cycle paths is normally the equivalent of driving from London to Manchester using only B roads I will continue to show what you describe as a lack of consideration for others. T |
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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 05:04:42 GMT, "ian henden"
wrote: [snip tale of typical PFI ripoff] So these cars are, apparently, parking perfectly legally with the Orders currently in force for that road (which is, apparently, none). You think? That depends if they are mandatory or advisory cycle lanes, I'd suggest. And whether the parked cars are causing an obstruction. I'd be faintly surprised if it were "perfectly" legal, but ICBW. Not a lot different, then, to cyclists legally using the road when a cycle path is provided? LOL! Keep beating, there is still a bloody smear where that dead horse was. Both cases are legal, but demonstrate a lack of consideration for others. Interestingly, though, the selfishness of the parked drivers allegedly increases risk to others at no cost to themselves, whereas the "selfishness" of cyclists appears to reduce risk to themselves and impose no danger to others. So perhaps not quite as similar as you make out. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at CHS, Puget Sound |
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"ian henden" wrote Not a lot different, then, to cyclists legally using the road when a cycle path is provided? Both cases are legal, but demonstrate a lack of consideration for others. It's a principle of mine to turn any problem created for cyclists into a problem for motorists instead. Such things get more attention, even though actually, when I am driving my car, they don't cause me much real difficulty. Given that bike paths are almost always something done to me, not something done for me, designed by idiots, for idiots, I have not only a right, but a duty not to accept them - if we accept them, people will think that they are acceptable. Nearly fifty years ago Professor Sir Colin Buchanan, one of Britain's greatest ever town planners and traffic engineers, wrote, in his book "Mixed Blessing, The Motor in Britain" "The meagre efforts to separate cyclists from motor traffic have failed, tracks are inadequate, the problem of treating them at junctions and intersections is completely unsolved, and the attitude of cyclists themselves to these admittedly unsatisfactory tracks has not been as helpful as it might have been." Nothing changes, and I, at least, intend to maintain that tradition of unhelpfulness Jeremy Parker |
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Tony W wrote:
Since travelling anywhere using cycle paths is normally the equivalent of driving from London to Manchester using only B roads I will continue to show what you describe as a lack of consideration for others. That comparison flatters cycle paths. Driving on B roads may not be the quickest or most direct route in many cases, but it can be very pleasant. -- Dave... |
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