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Old June 24th 08, 09:36 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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Hi, I've recently got possession of a Raleigh City bike. It's been
sitting in a store room for probably decades. Not that I'm an expert
but the bike looks like it's from the 50s although that's just a guess.
There's also a shop name on the bike - Withington Cycles, Manchester.
It says the bike was made in Nottingham and there is a frame number on
it.

It seems to be fitted with a Stermey Archer internal hub gear on the
rear wheel, which might be salvageable. The wheels are not in great
condition. The frame itself is a bit rusty but looks like it's
basically fine.

Just wondered if it might have any value - perhaps if I do it up.

I googled Withington Cycles but their site seems to be down. However,
the shop still seems to be running.


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Old June 24th 08, 11:02 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mark T[_2_]
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dannyfrankszzz writtificated

I googled Withington Cycles but their site seems to be down. However,
the shop still seems to be running.


This is prolly too much info but:

The shop is indeedy still running. The original Withington Cycles was
owned by local cycling eccentric Malc Cowle. The business went bankrupt a
couple of years back -Malc is a great bloke, but not great at running a
business- and was resurrected by one of the mechanics, trading under the
same name from the same premises. It's my favoured place for repairs -
decent mechanics and, not being on a busy road or doing any marketing, a
very small waiting list even at the height of summer.

Their website used to be www.withingtoncycles.co.uk but this was owned by
Malc, or Malc's son. Someone had done a lot of work getting it into search
results and it was fairly successful, tho suffered for not keeping much in
the way of stock in the shop so delivery could take a while. After the
bankruptcy the url redirected to Malc's son's 'Withoutdoors' outdoor site
which, although run on similar principles, had the advantage of having
their premises next door to an outdoor equipment manufacturer. It is the
Withoutdoors shop/site that has now closed down.

Withington Cycles website is www.withingtoncyclesltd.co.uk . It is still
under development. The shop is tiny-small but has some interesting stuff
in. Most importantly it smells like a proper bike shop too.
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Old June 25th 08, 02:44 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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On 24 Jun 2008 22:02:13 GMT
Mark T
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Most importantly it smells like a proper bike shop too.


Oil, rust, rubber, leather and an old bloke out the back smoking a pipe?


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Old June 25th 08, 07:45 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
James Thomson
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"dannyfrankszzz" a
écrit:

I've recently got possession of a Raleigh City bike. It's been
sitting in a store room for probably decades. Not that I'm an
expert but the bike looks like it's from the 50s although that's
just a guess.


The hub probably has a date code (month and year) on it. If you think the
rear wheel is original, that's a good way to date the bike.

Just wondered if it might have any value - perhaps if I do it up.


If you mean resale value, roadster bikes in "as found" condition - unless
they're particularly special - don't fetch much. If you need to replace
parts (rims, tyres, cables) to make it saleable, and you pay retail prices
for those, you'll probably have trouble recouping your investment. If you
want to keep the bike to ride, there'll be pleasure in the work and value in
the use you derive from it.

James Thomson


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Old June 25th 08, 09:31 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mark T[_2_]
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James Thomson writtificated

Just wondered if it might have any value - perhaps if I do it up.


If you mean resale value, roadster bikes in "as found" condition -
unless they're particularly special - don't fetch much.


From experience of selling second hand bikes privately, if it goes (and
stops) and nothing is obviously borked you'll get £20 to £30 for it. If
you spend money on it you'll get £30 to £35 for it.

Pumping up the tyres, replacing cables if they need it, adjusting gears &
brakes and possibly whacking on some new pads (or filing the pads back into
shape and condition) is about all you can do.
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Old June 25th 08, 01:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Pete Biggs
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dannyfrankszzz wrote:
Hi, I've recently got possession of a Raleigh City bike. It's been
sitting in a store room for probably decades. Not that I'm an expert
but the bike looks like it's from the 50s although that's just a
guess. There's also a shop name on the bike - Withington Cycles,
Manchester. It says the bike was made in Nottingham and there is a
frame number on it.

It seems to be fitted with a Stermey Archer internal hub gear on the
rear wheel, which might be salvageable. The wheels are not in great
condition. The frame itself is a bit rusty but looks like it's
basically fine.

Just wondered if it might have any value - perhaps if I do it up.


I don't think it will have any "collectors" value. It'll just be worth
about the same as a more modern bike in the same condition.

Give the chrome bits a rub with Autosol and you may get a few tens of quids,
if you're lucky.

~PB


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Old June 25th 08, 06:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Tony B[_2_]
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Rob Morley wrote:
On 24 Jun 2008 22:02:13 GMT
Mark T
pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_ reply*.com.invalid
wrote:

Most importantly it smells like a proper bike shop too.


Oil, rust, rubber, leather and an old bloke out the back smoking a pipe?


nearly; last time I was in the old bloke had a roll-up in his gob :-)
but he did have a brown shop coat on, a la Arfur English in Are You
Being Served. Top stuff...

T
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Old July 12th 08, 11:23 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Steph Peters
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Mark T pleasegivegenerously@warmail*turn_up_the_heat_to_ reply*.com.invalid
of - wrote:

dannyfrankszzz writtificated

I googled Withington Cycles but their site seems to be down. However,
the shop still seems to be running.


This is prolly too much info but:

The shop is indeedy still running. The original Withington Cycles was
owned by local cycling eccentric Malc Cowle. The business went bankrupt a
couple of years back -Malc is a great bloke, but not great at running a
business- and was resurrected by one of the mechanics, trading under the
same name from the same premises. It's my favoured place for repairs -
decent mechanics and, not being on a busy road or doing any marketing, a
very small waiting list even at the height of summer.

Their website used to be www.withingtoncycles.co.uk but this was owned by
Malc, or Malc's son. Someone had done a lot of work getting it into search
results and it was fairly successful, tho suffered for not keeping much in
the way of stock in the shop so delivery could take a while. After the
bankruptcy the url redirected to Malc's son's 'Withoutdoors' outdoor site
which, although run on similar principles, had the advantage of having
their premises next door to an outdoor equipment manufacturer. It is the
Withoutdoors shop/site that has now closed down.

Withington Cycles website is www.withingtoncyclesltd.co.uk . It is still
under development. The shop is tiny-small but has some interesting stuff
in. Most importantly it smells like a proper bike shop too.


And here comes a bit more too much information.

All the above is correct, but goes back less than 10 years. Prior to that
Malc Cowle had a frame building business in Ancoats which was not a retail
cycle shop. I have one of his frames from 92 or 93 purchased via Bicycle
Doctor in Rusholme who added all the components to make it into a bike and
sold it to me.
Withington Cycles used to be further up Burton Road, nearer to what is now
the traffic lights at Palatine Road but used to be a mini-roundabout. The
shop was in a tiny little building adjacent to the public toilets. The
current version of the toilets are in a replacement building and I assume
that the old bike shop premises must have been taken down at the same time.
I certainly bought toe clips and a pair of waterproof trousers in there in
1978, and the shop had the look of a place that had been going for years
before that.
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Steph Peters
Chorlton Wanderers Cycling Group
Monthly slow and easy rides from South Manchester
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