a quarter of motorists want cyclists to pay road tax

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:56:19 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

I wonder how many of those respondents don't want cyclists riding on
the pavement before they are allowed on the road: confused.com indeed.

"Jolly polly" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to
see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/



A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty
- is road tax just for bicycles?

We've got two cars. Should we really only be paying road tax on one of
them?

Cars ARE subject to excise duty, If you don't use them on the public
highway however you don't need to pay. I would have thought all car driver
knew that!

Are you really sure about that?

On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version
of the driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/



A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty - is road tax just for bicycles?

They pay Road Tax on the vehicle. Each vehicle.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 21/11/2011 14:01, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:58 pm, "Jolly wrote:
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A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of
the driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-...

A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty - is road tax just for bicycles?

What about these freeloaders?
Should they cough up too?

Typical ****** Mason diversionary tactic.

98% of vehicles are subject to Road Tax as the idiot knows.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 21/11/2011 17:45, Jolly polly wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 16:05, Jolly polly wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are
keen to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and
nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version
of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/





A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay
excise duty
- is road tax just for bicycles?

We've got two cars. Should we really only be paying road tax on one
of them?

Cars ARE subject to excise duty, If you don't use them on the public
highway
however you don't need to pay. I would have thought all car driver
knew that!

Well, yes... but a PP seemed to try to justify not having to pay road
tax on a bike by referring to the road tax he pays on his car. If that
is a valid justification (I accept that it might not be), one would
logically expect it apply equally in similar cases.

Of course, he might have just been spouting nonsense.


Nevertheless 25% of motorists is not a majority of motorists (at least
not when I went to school), let alone a majority of the population. It
sounds like sour grapes to me.

Only 2% of journeys are made by push bike, but bicyclists still want
cycle lanes, forward junctions, free cycle parking etc etc.


I for one wouldn't mind paying a fare share towards the upkeep of the
highways and byways, provided that's what it went towards of course.


Clearly not a 'proper' bicyclist.


--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 21/11/2011 17:45, Jolly polly wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 16:05, Jolly polly wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
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A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to
see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/





A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty
- is road tax just for bicycles?

We've got two cars. Should we really only be paying road tax on one of them?

Cars ARE subject to excise duty, If you don't use them on the public highway
however you don't need to pay. I would have thought all car driver knew that!

Well, yes... but a PP seemed to try to justify not having to pay road tax
on a bike by referring to the road tax he pays on his car. If that is a
valid justification (I accept that it might not be), one would logically
expect it apply equally in similar cases.

Of course, he might have just been spouting nonsense.


Nevertheless 25% of motorists is not a majority of motorists (at least not
when I went to school), let alone a majority of the population.

What does that have to do with anything?

It sounds like sour grapes to me.

It might do.

I for one wouldn't mind paying a fare share towards the upkeep of the
highways and byways, provided that's what it went towards of course.

Amen to that.

On 21/11/2011 16:07, Simon Mason wrote:
On Nov 21, 4:05 pm, "Jolly polly" wrote:


Cars ARE subject to excise duty, If you don't use them on the public
highway
however you don't need to pay. I would have thought all car driver knew
that!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Two million motor vehicles are exempt though, including this lot.

Leaving 31 million which aren't. Or 94%.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

On 21/11/2011 17:54, Bertie Wooster wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 11:56:19 -0000, "Mrcheerful"
wrote:

nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

I wonder how many of those respondents don't want cyclists riding on
the pavement before they are allowed on the road: confused.com indeed.

Nobody wants bicyclists riding on the pavement - that's why it's against
the law.

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster
University

Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and
nearly half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent
version of the driving test before they can ride on the road.


http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/

What about those of us who already pay road tax, in some cases for more
than one vehicle?

--
Paul - xxx
"You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win"
Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.

On 21/11/2011 18:49, Paul - xxx wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and
nearly half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent
version of the driving test before they can ride on the road.


http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/

What about those of us who already pay road tax, in some cases for more
than one vehicle?

If you wanted an extra car, would that "argument" hold water?