a quarter of motorists want cyclists to pay road tax

On Nov 21, 4:35*pm, "Simon Mason"
wrote:
On Nov 21, 1:58 pm, "Jolly polly" wrote:



"Mrcheerful" wrote in message

...

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to
see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of
the driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-....

A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty - is road tax just for bicycles?

I would like to see VED scrapped and added to fuel duty and then at least
all road users of fossil fuelled vehicles would pay for the mileage they did
rather than a nominal sum for a car that ends up sitting on the driveway
like mine does for most of the time. That would be a fairer system.



How much do you estimate that fuel duty would have to rise in order
for the government's total tax take to remain at parity should VED be
abolished?

Would you like to see an additional amount on road fuel duty to cover
every road user at a basic minimum (third party only level) insurance
cover?

On Nov 21, 5:45*pm, "Jolly polly" wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message

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On 21/11/2011 16:05, Jolly polly wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of
the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-...

A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty
- is road tax just for bicycles?

We've got two cars. Should we really only be paying road tax on one of
them?

Cars ARE subject to excise duty, If you don't use them on the public
highway
however you don't need to pay. I would have thought all car driver knew
that!

Well, yes... but a PP seemed to try to justify not having to pay road tax
on a bike by referring to the road tax he pays on his car. If that is a
valid justification (I accept that it might not be), one would logically
expect it apply equally in similar cases.

Of course, he might have just been spouting nonsense.

Nevertheless 25% of motorists is not a majority of motorists (at least not
when I went to school), let alone a majority of the population. It sounds
like sour grapes to me.
I for one wouldn't mind paying a fare share towards the upkeep of the
highways and byways, provided that's what it went towards of course.

That's the problem, one man's fair percentage is another man's
outright rip off.

On Nov 21, 8:27*pm, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Alan Crawshaw wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:
A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see cyclists pay road tax.

Are you proud that a quarter of your fellow drivers are too stupid to
know that *any* zero emission vehicle pays zero VED?

At present, but as revenues fall no doubt the tax will rise.

You can bet on that.

On Nov 21, 10:57*pm, Ron Lowe wrote:
On 21/11/2011 11:56, Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-...

There's no such thing as 'road tax'.


'Ere we go again, another pedant emerges from cover.

On Nov 22, 5:41*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 21/11/2011 18:49, Paul - xxx wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough
of two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they
are keen to see cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and
nearly half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an
equivalent version of the driving test before they can ride on
the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-...



What about those of us who already pay road tax, in some cases for
more than one vehicle?

If you wanted an extra car, would that "argument" hold water?

"are keen to see cyclists pay road tax" *I'm a cyclist and I pay road
tax a few times a year already ...


But I want to see you pay VED on each of your cycles as well as your
cars.

On Nov 22, 10:09*am, NM wrote:
On Nov 21, 10:57*pm, Ron Lowe wrote:

On 21/11/2011 11:56, Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-....

There's no such thing as 'road tax'.

'Ere we go again, another pedant emerges from cover.

"A pedant is what someone who doesn't know something calls someone who
does."

James H Reeve.

--
Simon Mason

NM wrote:

On Nov 22, 5:41*am, "Paul - xxx" wrote:
JNugent wrote:
On 21/11/2011 18:49, Paul - xxx wrote:
Mrcheerful wrote:

A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had
enough of two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating
that they are keen to see cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed
and nearly half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an
equivalent version of the driving test before they can ride on
the road.


http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...want-cyclists-...



What about those of us who already pay road tax, in some cases
for more than one vehicle?

If you wanted an extra car, would that "argument" hold water?

"are keen to see cyclists pay road tax" *I'm a cyclist and I pay
road tax a few times a year already ...


But I want to see you pay VED on each of your cycles as well as your
cars.

Changing goalposts eh? That isn't what was said in the posted article
....

--
Paul - xxx
"You know, all I wanna do is race .. and all I wanna do is win"
Mark Cavendish, World Champion 2011.

On 21/11/2011 15:01, JNugent wrote:
On 21/11/2011 13:58, Jolly polly wrote:

"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen
to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and
nearly half
of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of the
driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/




A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay
excise duty
- is road tax just for bicycles?

We've got two cars. Should we really only be paying road tax on one of
them?


I find that I can only drive one car at a time, and I can't ride a bike
*and* drive a car at the same time. I reckon we should pay road tax on
the cheapest :-)

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On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 21:07:40 -0800 (PST), Simon Mason
wrote:

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Not just zero emission vehicles but many "low polluting" cars like
these pay no VED.

http://www.swldxer.co.uk/roadtax.jpg

Two million motor vehicles are now VED exempt.


And here we have the roadtax.jpg making its twenty third outing since June
earlier this year.

Voters for the roadtax.jpg should press button 8 on their keyboard.

Voters who could not give a **** should just ignore the roadtax.jpg.



--
"You get a real feeling of elation just for the simple act of cycling past the local hospital
where there are people of my age who have abused their bodies and suffered all sorts of ailments"

Simon Mason

On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 08:33:32 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2011 13:58:23 -0000, "Jolly polly"
wrote:


"Mrcheerful" wrote in message
...
A study by Confused.com, has found that motorists have had enough of
two-wheeled trekkers, with 25% of drivers stating that they are keen to see
cyclists pay road tax.

A further 14% want bicycles to have number plates displayed and nearly
half of respondents (44%) want cyclists to pass an equivalent version of
the driving test before they can ride on the road.

http://uk.autoblog.com/2011/11/21/a-...-pay-road-tax/


A lot of cyclists own a car as well as a bicycle, so already pay excise
duty - is road tax just for bicycles?

It's just more confirmation of TRL549.

Guy


Hello Porker

I assume you mean the Executive Summary when it clearly said:

"Throughout the research it was observed that drivers do
not have particularly strong feelings towards cyclists
compared to their level of feelings towards other groups of
road users."

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