Lance Armstrong -- Exaggerated Cancer Doper To Make a "Comeback"?

On Sep 9, 8:09 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:

If Lance does win an 8th TdF victory, he will have
won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's one heck of an accomplishment,
if he can pull it off.

If he wins it next year it would be a truly remarkable feat. It would
also speak even more volumes about just what a genetically gifted
super-freak athletic specimen he is. Seems that if he was dominating
the "dirty" peloton when he was supposedly drug-free, then he will
surely mop up the field in the "clean" era (even at 4 years older).

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On Sep 9, 8:09 pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:

If Lance does win an 8th TdF victory, he will have
won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's one heck of an
accomplishment,
if he can pull it off.

If he wins it next year it would be a truly remarkable feat. It would
also speak even more volumes about just what a genetically gifted
super-freak athletic specimen he is. Seems that if he was dominating
the "dirty" peloton when he was supposedly drug-free, then he will
surely mop up the field in the "clean" era (even at 4 years older).

My guess is that he will generate a great deal of publicity and Contador
will do all the winning.

On Sep 9, 1:09*pm, MissSouth wrote:
From what? *HIS CHEATIN' HEART?

Like Brett Favre, giant ego LANCE threatens to come-back, regardless
of Armstrong's now generally accepted chemical-fueled racing
victories.

There should be a law!

I checked straight at the source, that is, L'Equipe's web-site and
found this funny quote:

Concernant son âge avancé, l'Américain ne semble pas effrayé par ce
paramètre. Il a pris en exemple le cas de sa compatriote, Dara Torres,
qui est sortie de sa retraite des bassins pour décrocher à 41 ans deux
médailles d'argent aux JO de Pékin. «Les sportifs âgés sont très
performants, posez la question à des physiologistes du sport renommés
et ils vous diront que la barrière de l'âge est une légende», a-t-il
assuré.

That is, that older athletes can still be competitive, as for example
Dara Torres, age 41 who got 2 silver medals at Peking. That makes you
wonder whether L'Equipe's cycling reporters actually followed cycling
at the Olympics, because the Gold medal in the Madison was taken by a
43 year old, so you don't even have to look for other sports and other
genders to find examples.

-ilan

William Asher wrote:
He has had several years to stockpile bags of his own frozen red blood
cells harvested while he was drug free. It just might work with the right
training program and support staff that can keeps names and codes on blood
bags straight.

Who would he get his blood bags mixed up with ? The Olsen twins ?

schreef:
I checked straight at the source, that is, L'Equipe's web-site and
found this funny quote:

Concernant son âge avancé, l'Américain ne semble pas effrayé par ce
paramètre. Il a pris en exemple le cas de sa compatriote, Dara Torres,
qui est sortie de sa retraite des bassins pour décrocher à 41 ans deux
médailles d'argent aux JO de Pékin. «Les sportifs âgés sont très
performants, posez la question à des physiologistes du sport renommés
et ils vous diront que la barrière de l'âge est une légende», a-t-il
assuré.

That is, that older athletes can still be competitive, as for example
Dara Torres, age 41 who got 2 silver medals at Peking. That makes you
wonder whether L'Equipe's cycling reporters actually followed cycling
at the Olympics, because the Gold medal in the Madison was taken by a
43 year old, so you don't even have to look for other sports and other
genders to find examples.

How's that straight from the source when it came from Vanity Fair USA?
(If it concerns the Tour de France, l'Equipe is Teh Source?) And did you
mean: makes you wonder if _Armstrong_ followed Olympic cycling? Because
"il a pris".

I thought your trolls were meant to be subtle.

On Sep 9, 7:09*pm, "Mike Jacoubowsky" wrote:
"MissSouth" wrote in message

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From what? *HIS CHEATIN' HEART?

Like Brett Favre, giant ego LANCE threatens to come-back, regardless
of Armstrong's now generally accepted chemical-fueled racing
victories.

There should be a law!

You've got to be kidding. As if virtually every successful athelete doesn't
have a giant ego? Lance does, and delivers. Consistently.

Generally-accepted chemical-fueled racing? *That's a bit of a stretch. But
it's almost irrelevant. If Lance does win an 8th TdF victory, he will have
won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's one heck of an accomplishment,
if he can pull it off.

--Mike Jacoubowsky
Chain Reaction Bicycleswww.ChainReaction.com
Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA

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http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/09/09/arm...rns/index.html
(CNN) -- Cyclist Lance Armstrong confirmed Tuesday that he will be
returning to road racing and will shoot for an eighth win at the Tour
de France.


Lance Armstrong after his seventh win of the Tour de France in Paris
in 2005.

"I have decided to return to professional cycling in order to raise
awareness of the global cancer burden," the seven-time Tour de France
champion said in a statement issued by his LiveStrong Foundation.

Armstrong told CNN that he will not comment further until September 24
when he will formally announce his return to pro-cycling at a Clinton
Global Initiative event.

The announcement comes a day after VeloNews, a respected cycling
journal, broke the news citing unnamed sources that Armstrong was
coming out of retirement.

In an exclusive interview with Vanity Fair posted Tuesday on the
magazine's Web site, Armstrong said he is certain he will compete in
the Tour de France next summer.

more at link

He did pretty good at Leadville 100 mile MTB bike race, without a
road. Kept up with the previous winner for the first 90 miles and
came in second.

http://sports.yahoo.com/sc/news?slug...v=ap&type=lgns

Lance Armstrong finishes 2nd in Leadville 100 race
By ARNIE STAPLETON, AP Sports Writer
Aug 9, [2008] 5:38 pm EDT

LEADVILLE, Colo. (AP)—Not since his last victory ride down the Champs-
Elysees in 2005 has a finish line looked so sensational to Lance
Armstrong.

The seven-time Tour de France champion took second place in the
Leadville Trail 100 on Saturday, pushing six-time defending champion
Dave Wiens to a record time in the “Race Across the Sky,” a lung-
searing 100-mile mountain bike race through the Rockies.

“I was empty at the end just in terms of fuel. I just haven’t had
seven-hour rides,” Armstrong said after his first finish in a
competitive bike race since he retired following his seventh straight
triumph in the Tour de France.

Wiens crossed the finish on a flat back tire in 6 hours, 45 minutes,
45 seconds, shaving 13 minutes off the record he set last year while
holding off Floyd Landis.

Armstrong crossed 1 minute, 56 seconds later on a cool, cloudy
afternoon.

“The guy that I raced today wasn’t the guy who won the Tours, so I
don’t put myself in that category,” Wiens said. “But it was great of
him to come out and do this race and to race with all the people. He’s
a class act out there. It was fun. We didn’t talk a whole lot because
it seemed like it was pretty much business.”

Armstrong, who has turned his competitive juices to running marathons
since he retired from competitive cycling three years ago, had said
before the race he’d be happy with a top-five finish.

Wiens suggested before the race that Armstrong was either selling
himself short or setting him up, and sure enough Armstrong pushed him
like nobody ever had.

“At the end I realized I was thoroughly cooked, but I said, ‘I am
having a good time,”’ Armstrong said. “That’s why I wanted to come out
here. I didn’t expect to beat this guy so I just wanted have something
out there to shoot for, train for, stay in shape for and it was a
blast. It really was.”

So, will he be back?

“I think so,” Armstrong said, adding: “I won’t come back unless I’m in
shape. And I feel like I’m in decent shape. You can’t show up to this
race if you’re not in shape. So it just depends on how I train. I’d
love to be back.”

The country’s highest-altitude bicycle race, which is sponsored by
Lifetime Fitness, began at Leadville with 1,000 riders making the 50-
mile out-and-back trek in one of the country’s toughest single-day
races. It starts at 10,500 feet and climbs to more than 14,000 feet.

Armstrong and Wiens raced together for 90 miles in the grueling test
of lung-burning climbs and tough technical descents, the latter half
of that by themselves.

With 10 miles to go, however, Armstrong turned to Wiens and said, “I’m
done, go.”

Wiens protested, hoping the two could battle it out to the end in the
old tiny mining town of Leadville, where race co-founder Ken Chlouber
had said Armstrong’s entry in the race was the biggest news in these
parts since the gold boom of 1860.

“He said come on,” Armstrong recounted. “I said no, I can’t.”

As Wiens pulled away, Armstrong lost his focus and his bike slipped
out from under him on a soft corner. He wasn’t hurt and got right back
up.

Still, Wiens never felt safe, constantly looking back. And when he
crested his last hill with a half-mile left, he felt his back tire
start to squish.

“I’m thinking, ‘Oh, no,”’ Wiens recalled. “I don’t know what happened.
It’s got to be flattened by now. It was squishing all over.”

Wiens couldn’t believe he shaved so much time off his previous record.

“That was a product of Lance and I being together,” Wiens said. “And
the course was as fast as it gets.”

About 75 miles in, Armstrong and Wiens both stayed on their bikes
while ascending Powerline, where Wiens and the rest of the field had
always walked their bikes on the gravel trail.

Not this time.

Armstrong asked Wiens if he ever rides that stretch, and Wiens said no
way.

“That didn’t deter him,” Wiens said.

“It was Lance’s idea. I would have never considered that.”

“It’s always better, especially at elevation, to ride it,” Armstrong
explained.

Armstrong said his next competitive race will be the Chicago Marathon
in October.

[I think his plans have changed. If he wants to get back into bicycle
racing, he needs to avoid marathons, especially given his past history
of injuries during marathons.]

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/09/...ts/CYCLING.php

He has signed up for the Out of Competition drug testing that he has
to be in for 6 months before doing high level racing.

On Sep 10, 1:45*am, Donald Munro wrote:
William Asher wrote:
He has had several years to stockpile bags of his own frozen red blood
cells harvested while he was drug free. *It just might work with the right
training program and support staff that can keeps names and codes on blood
bags straight.

Who would he get his blood bags mixed up with ? The Olsen twins ?

Dumbass,

not all bodily fluids are blood.

Thanks,
sots

On Sep 9, 8:37 pm, William Asher wrote:
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Generally-accepted chemical-fueled racing? That's a bit of a stretch.
But it's almost irrelevant. If Lance does win an 8th TdF victory, he
will have won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's one heck of an
accomplishment, if he can pull it off.

He has had several years to stockpile bags of his own frozen red blood
cells harvested while he was drug free. It just might work with the right
training program and support staff that can keeps names and codes on blood
bags straight.

--
Bill Asher

That the thing. Blood has a short self-life. If he stocks a lot, he'll
throw away a lot.

TJG wrote:

On Sep 9, 8:37 pm, William Asher wrote:
Mike Jacoubowsky wrote:
Generally-accepted chemical-fueled racing? That's a bit of a
stretch. But it's almost irrelevant. If Lance does win an 8th TdF
victory, he will have won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's
one heck of an accomplishment, if he can pull it off.

He has had several years to stockpile bags of his own frozen red
blood cells harvested while he was drug free. It just might work
with the right training program and support staff that can keeps
names and codes on blood bags straight.

--
Bill Asher

That the thing. Blood has a short self-life. If he stocks a lot, he'll
throw away a lot.


Frozen red blood cells can last for years.

http://www.bloodbook.com/facts.html

http://bloodjournal.hematologylibrar.../59/6/1118.pdf

It was said as a joke, but it's plausible that he's stockpiled RBCs.

--
Bill Asher

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(Tom Keats) wrote:

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"Mike Jacoubowsky" writes:
"MissSouth" wrote in message
...
From what? HIS CHEATIN' HEART?

Like Brett Favre, giant ego LANCE threatens to come-back, regardless
of Armstrong's now generally accepted chemical-fueled racing
victories.

There should be a law!

You've got to be kidding. As if virtually every successful athelete doesn't
have a giant ego? Lance does, and delivers. Consistently.

Generally-accepted chemical-fueled racing? That's a bit of a stretch. But
it's almost irrelevant. If Lance does win an 8th TdF victory, he will have
won in both "dirty" and "clean" eras. That's one heck of an accomplishment,
if he can pull it off.

Good troll, though. Hasn't even yet been called on
being a troll. Just a bunch of knee-jerk reactions.

Not a good troll. What? We have to comment on every
sorry, wannabee net warrior? Look at the distribution.
You would have to correlate the replies with the group
of origin to tote up the troll score. Just a sad little
puke looking for validation. He got some bites, though.

--
Michael Press