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Old June 6th 05, 02:19 PM
Steven Bornfeld
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Donald Munro wrote:
Robert Chung wrote:

I think that you've set up a false dichotomy in thinking that there are
extreme leftists here. I don't know where anarchists and violent
socialists hang out but, frankly, I'm guessing that they don't get up in
the morning and say, "hey, let's go check out rbr before we continue our
plan to blow up western civilization."



Steven Bornfeld wrote:

LOL--let me finish my coffee first.



I always knew those dopers who drink so much expresso in the morning must
be terrorists.


There was a theme running through the movie "Kicking and Screaming"
about coffee fueling the dreams of civilization (or something like that".

Steve




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Old June 6th 05, 11:22 PM
h squared
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keynes' old slave wrote:


Hey, drawing quick inferences is what the usenet and political disputes
are all about. You won't be "far out" or "far off" in doing so. That
just makes you normal, and like I said, I go out of my way to be
different. FWIW, I didn't take anything h^3 (heather "hot" halvorson)
said as "abuse."


stop that... and i didn't mean any of it as abuse, or even as a
"characterization", so you read me right

heather
keeping this ot political post short for bob




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Old June 8th 05, 01:36 AM
Michael Press
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In article ,
keynes' old slave wrote:

Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:


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I'm not sure if being Keynes' old slave means you like/agree with him
or not, and I'm no expert on Keynes.


LOL. No one is an expert on Keynes. His horribly written "General
Theory" book made sure of that.

My red flag goes up when someone deliberately speaks in the most
obfuscatory language. What do they have to hide?

However, I do like the quote attributed to him in
answer to the position that "in the long run, the
market goes up".


I don't know if you're kidding, but the facile comment he made was:

"In the long run we are all dead."

and the far more ironic

"The ideas of economists and political philosophers, both when they are
right and when they are wrong, are more powerful than is commonly
understood. Indeed the world is ruled by little else. Practical men, who
believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence,
are usually the slaves of some defunct economist."

So the whimsical handle is simply that I didn't die in the long run and
that I am a slave of a defunct economist: Keynes himself.

It is somewhat amusing that the left-wing, typically fans of
intervention of the government into the economy, deride those
big-honking-deficit-running keynesian pigs Ronny Reagan and GWB, but yet
defend keynesianism. Go figure. The politics are incoherent. It
doesn't matter. Though keynes was intellectually defeated, he wasn't
defeated in the political realm, where the next election makes sure
politicians respond to short-run and not long-run incentives. But the
deficit bird and fairly responsible FED has come to roost, and
keynsianism might just kill itself off, even though the politicians
can't bring themselves to do it.


Economists appear to be right, whereas they only dress up what is.
They have finely honed analytic & synthetic skills, write well,
are perceptive, and describe what _is_ as if what they write is an
ab initio theory that encompasses and predicts the dynamics of
money; it is not this, it is a system of epicycles. That old saw
"Economics was invented to make astrology look respectable" is not
a joke, it is the awful truth. Do not presidents run to the court
economist for the right paradigm to present, then do what they are
going to do anyway?

Here is my theory of economics.
The players uses every bit of information available to them to
pump money out of the market. Eventually every bit of information
is consumed (turned into money in the pocket). The residue is what
is left when a computer program compresses a data stream; the
residue is completely unpredictable.

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Michael Press
 




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