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I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else.
Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote:
I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thu, 01 Aug 2019 20:36:04 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Yup. And a nationalistic movement (that happened to be communistic) spent years fighting to free their country from foreign domination and everyone said that they were bad guys. As an aside the idea of democracy was abhorrent and literally terrifying to most European governments in 1776 :-) Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? And hasn't the U.S. been shoveling money out all around the world since WW II? Why shouldn't China do the same? As for treatment of minority religious members take at look at Saudi :-) On a purely rational basis the Saudis can hardly complain about the treatment of anybody by any other nation. They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. Criminals operating in other nations will satisfy demand in the US. Maybe we should punish China for its lax oversight by inundating them with opium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars -- Jay Beattie |
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 21:31:11 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. Criminals operating in other nations will satisfy demand in the US. Maybe we should punish China for its lax oversight by inundating them with opium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars -- Jay Beattie I believe that modern day China controls the drug use in the country by executions and forced "re-education" in a government "re-hab center". The "opium wars" were all the fault of the Chinese. After all they demanded payment for Tea and Silk in silver coin, which was almost literally bankrupting the British Empire. Then, or course, those clever British chaps discovered that the opium poppy was almost a weed in Bengal, India.... -- cheers, John B. |
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On 8/1/2019 11:31 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. Criminals operating in other nations will satisfy demand in the US. Maybe we should punish China for its lax oversight by inundating them with opium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars -- Jay Beattie Agreed. The Chinese are not stupid. They know that, and seem to be emulating a very successful policy to weaken targeted adversaries. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 9:31:13 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:36:07 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote: On 8/1/2019 8:03 PM, jbeattie wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Oh, is that like China's compliance with pollution treaties? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/02/w...ghting-it.html China will always talk a great game and sign anything, then ignore any inconvenient agreements. https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-against-china China theorists posit that Hitler annexed Poland and nobody gave a damn. Italy slashed and burned through Ethiopia and the League of Nations wrote resolutions, but zip for action. Therefore... and here we are. Did you notice that after huge Chinese payments to Turkey, Pakistan, the Saudi family and other moslem states, that only the US of A has said _anything_ about 1,000,000+ moslem Uighers in concentration camps in East Turkistan (Western China)? They are not stupid. They know that they can generally get away with anything, but 'generally' being not always. Which is why the huge Chinese anti-Trump media push leading up to 2020. Criminals operating in other nations will satisfy demand in the US. Maybe we should punish China for its lax oversight by inundating them with opium. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars -- Jay Beattie "We"? Are you a drug dealer? |
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On Thu, 1 Aug 2019 18:03:14 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote: On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Interesting. I did some more reading and it appears that fentanyl is not even a controlled substance in much of Europe, but it is in the U.S. and the largest source of illegal (in the U.S.) fentanyl is by mail order from Chinese Web Sites. -- cheers, John B. |
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On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 6:03:16 PM UTC-7, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, August 1, 2019 at 5:29:18 PM UTC-7, John B. wrote: I know this is off topic but I don't find the answer anywhere else. Today's news has Pres. Trump accusing the Chinese of continuing to sell fentanyl to the United States -- "and many Americans continue to die!" But my research shows that fentanyl is a medical drug for the alleviation of severe pain and as such I would assume to be a controlled substance. How than, "many Americans continue to die!" ? See https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/01/w...nyl-trump.html Fentanyl and all its variants are now controlled substances in China which, of course, does not stop illegal trade. -- Jay Beattie. Jay, Fentanyl was developed to be used as an injectable painkiller when all else fails. The people in the final stages of cancer and the like do not respond much to most of the pain killers on the market including the strongest forms of Morphine. Of course the drug dealers immediately started manufacturing it in pill form and with which it is extremely easy to misuse. |
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