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Shifting glitch w/ Ultegra10-speed cassette on Bontrager 9-speed hub
I recently put an Ultegra 10-speed cassette on a circa 2002 Bontrager
Race Lite hub (which previously hosted an Ultegra 9-speed cassette). I put the spacer that came with the new cassette onto the hub before installing the cassette itself. When I put the wheel on my bike, which was well-tuned for a Dura Ace 10-speed cassette on a newish Easton Orion II wheel, each of the SIS "stops" seemed to hit at one cog larger than it should have (i.e., to the left, so that if the shifter should have had the derailleur on the smallest cog, it was actually on the second-smallest cog). The obvious fix was to remove the spacer, effectively sliding the whole cassette a smidge to the left. That seemed to work, more or less (although there's definitely more noise with that setup than with the Easton wheel). However, the largest cog is now extremely close to the spokes. I think I can just set the derailleur stop screw to be very sure that the chain won't jump into the spokes, but I'm curious about the spacer and the extreme closeness of the big cog and the spokes. I haven't been able to find any specific guidance on the web and am wondering whether the spacer does in fact belong in the setup. I gues that would mean that I have some other spacing difference between the Bontrager wheel and the Easton wheel, which seems like it would be odd (or at least a pain), but I thought the whole point of that spacer was for installing the 10-speed cassette on a 9-speed hub. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. |
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Shifting glitch w/ Ultegra10-speed cassette on Bontrager 9-speed hub
On Feb 23, 2:11 pm, "Josh" wrote:
I recently put an Ultegra 10-speed cassette on a circa 2002 Bontrager Race Lite hub (which previously hosted an Ultegra 9-speed cassette). I put the spacer that came with the new cassette onto the hub before installing the cassette itself. When I put the wheel on my bike, which was well-tuned for a Dura Ace 10-speed cassette on a newish Easton Orion II wheel, each of the SIS "stops" seemed to hit at one cog larger than it should have (i.e., to the left, so that if the shifter should have had the derailleur on the smallest cog, it was actually on the second-smallest cog). The obvious fix was to remove the spacer, effectively sliding the whole cassette a smidge to the left. And why is that the "obvious fix"? Not obvious to me as the spacer is intentionally present. Why wouldn't you just adjust the der a smidge to the right and not f*** up your der/chain/spokes when you go to the biggest cog? That seemed to work, more or less (although there's definitely more noise with that setup than with the Easton wheel). However, the largest cog is now extremely close to the spokes. I think I can just set the derailleur stop screw to be very sure that the chain won't jump into the spokes, but I'm curious about the spacer and the extreme closeness of the big cog and the spokes. I haven't been able to find any specific guidance on the web and am wondering whether the spacer does in fact belong in the setup. I gues that would mean that I have some other spacing difference between the Bontrager wheel and the Easton wheel, which seems like it would be odd (or at least a pain), but I thought the whole point of that spacer was for installing the 10-speed cassette on a 9-speed hub. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. Oh my! Here's an insight for you: put the spacer back on and use the barrel adjuster on the back of the der to correct the der/cassette misalignment. Please note as well, variances between mfrs are not uncommon. Even between "compatible" components. So when switching between different mfr's wheelsets and cassettes, minor adjustments WILL be required. You want perfect compatibility? Then buy all your components from the same mfr - you might get close. I would suggest adjusting the stops for the der's max throw at the most extreme position (based on wheelset+cassette) at both ends and then adjusting the downtube barrel adjuster each time the wheels are changed. That's what it's there for. D'ohBoy |
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Shifting glitch w/ Ultegra10-speed cassette on Bontrager 9-speed hub
On Feb 23, 1:11 pm, "Josh" wrote:
I recently put an Ultegra 10-speed cassette on a circa 2002 Bontrager Race Lite hub (which previously hosted an Ultegra 9-speed cassette). I put the spacer that came with the new cassette onto the hub before installing the cassette itself. When I put the wheel on my bike, which was well-tuned for a Dura Ace 10-speed cassette on a newish Easton Orion II wheel, each of the SIS "stops" seemed to hit at one cog larger than it should have (i.e., to the left, so that if the shifter should have had the derailleur on the smallest cog, it was actually on the second-smallest cog). The obvious fix was to remove the spacer, effectively sliding the whole cassette a smidge to the left. That seemed to work, more or less (although there's definitely more noise with that setup than with the Easton wheel). However, the largest cog is now extremely close to the spokes. I think I can just set the derailleur stop screw to be very sure that the chain won't jump into the spokes, but I'm curious about the spacer and the extreme closeness of the big cog and the spokes. I haven't been able to find any specific guidance on the web and am wondering whether the spacer does in fact belong in the setup. I gues that would mean that I have some other spacing difference between the Bontrager wheel and the Easton wheel, which seems like it would be odd (or at least a pain), but I thought the whole point of that spacer was for installing the 10-speed cassette on a 9-speed hub. Any insight would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. The spacer is there so you can tighten the cogset. W/o it, you cannot tighten a shimano 10s cogset on an otherwise '9s' freehub body. All hubs orient the cogsets relative to the RD a little differently. Never expect any rear hub to place the cassette exactly the same as any other, except when the hubs are identical. New wheel on, adjust RD-go ride. |
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