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Beaker wrote in message ...
Having "hat hair" beats having "wind-hair", IMHO. bkr That is my husbands philosophy......he will wear a hat to avoid "wind hair" but I think that has something to do with a receding hair line. When men get older they begin to LOVE hats on windy days. ;-) Personally I will take "Wind Hair" over HAT HAIR in a heartbeat. My hairline is just fine and the wind blowing through my hair is great. Just my opinion. BUT...(why is there always a "but".....My hair is very long so maybe it would not be that great while trying to ride a bike. 2nd thoughts here. HAT HAIR...WIND HAIR....ummmmmmmm http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ |
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Dan wrote:
Wear your helmet and shut, Austin! plonk Austin -- I'm pedaling as fast as I durn well please! There are no X characters in my address |
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Here's a bit of confusing perspective. This is the dialog that took place
between me and the ER physician after the ambulance delivered me there. Physician: "You're very lucky to be alive. Were it not for the incredible shape you're in, you wouldn't be. Me: "Indeed, the bike is responsible for the shape I'm in." Bob C. That's too funny. Yes indeed, that bike was responsible for both conditions you were in. The incredible shape and the bruised and battered shape. I guess there is an up side and a down side to everything in life. :-) Very witty comeback to the Doc. Can I steal it if I ever get in incredibly good shape and end up in the ER??? http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ |
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"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "AustinMN" wrote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^ I honestly believe that a properly shaped Styrofoam surround is capable of protecting what is within it. That is why I drive home with eggs in a Styrofoam container, and why most delicate products are packaged by the manufacturers in Styrofoam. Are you aware that almost all car bumpers are now made of such foam? It is the fact that it crushes in an orderly manner that provides the protection. That does not prove that helmets prevent head injuries, but I hate to see the wrong arguments used. I have no doubt whatsoever that helmets can be beneficial. I believe that every cyclist should have one and wear it. I totally disagree with mandatory helmet laws though. The main reason for me is that I believe my safety is helped far more by the large number of (mostly unhelmeted) cyclists on my city's (Toronto) streets. The fewer cyclists, the more dangerous the roads. Helmets help, but having drivers experienced in dealing with cyclists in traffic helps a lot more. And what would help the most is somehow making sure all urban cyclists are properly taught how to ride safely in the city. If politicians really cared about improving safety for cyclists, they would fix the problem (bad drivers, bad cyclists), not band-aid the symptoms (helmet laws). That's what I think, Paul |
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On Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:25:31 -0600, "AustinMN"
wrote: Leo Lichtman wrote: "AustinMN" wrote: If you hate to see the wrong argument used, why did you go so far out of your way to divorce the comment from it's context (even to the point of snipping it mid-sentence? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ My snipping was not intended to alter the meaning, nor do I think it did. First, you broke the thread (so that it becomes difficult for others to find my original post (and learn what I actually said). Then you claim that your clipped quote: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull has the same intent as my actual statement: Do you honestly believe that a 50 cent piece of Styrofoam that can be crushed with a finger would protect a skull (which, by the way, is many, many times harder than the Styrofoam hat) from that kind of trauma? The inappropriate clip makes it sound like I am claiming helmets can't protect one's skull. What I'm actually claiming is that a Styrofoam helmet won't protect a skull from a trauma capable of causing a person's brains to be squeezed out of that skull. So either Leo hasn't a clue about the type of injuries helmets are designed and can be reasonably expected to protect a person from or he is quite aware and realizes that duplicity and intellectual dishonesty in a flimsy attempt to discredit the poster are about the only tactics he can muster against sound arguments. -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber- baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:27:45 -0500, ,
"Paul R" wrote: If politicians really cared about improving safety for cyclists, they would fix the problem (bad drivers, bad cyclists), not band-aid the symptoms (helmet laws). That's what I think, I think if helmet laws are effective at keeping people off bicycles we'll only see more of them enacted. -- zk |
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"Zoot Katz" wrote in message ... Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:27:45 -0500, , "Paul R" wrote: If politicians really cared about improving safety for cyclists, they would fix the problem (bad drivers, bad cyclists), not band-aid the symptoms (helmet laws). That's what I think, I think if helmet laws are effective at keeping people off bicycles we'll only see more of them enacted. -- heh heh, sad, but true in many places!! |
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"Maggie" wrote in message om... Here's a bit of confusing perspective. This is the dialog that took place between me and the ER physician after the ambulance delivered me there. Physician: "You're very lucky to be alive. Were it not for the incredible shape you're in, you wouldn't be. Me: "Indeed, the bike is responsible for the shape I'm in." Bob C. That's too funny. Yes indeed, that bike was responsible for both conditions you were in. The incredible shape and the bruised and battered shape. I guess there is an up side and a down side to everything in life. :-) Very witty comeback to the Doc. Can I steal it if I ever get in incredibly good shape and end up in the ER??? http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ I wish I could claim credit for wittiness. I didn't realize what I'd said until after it came out. Then I thought to myself, "that was amazingly witty for someone lying here mangled, in shock, who hasn't yet had any pain killing drugs." I hope you won't find occassion to use it, but if you do, I hope you can. Bob C. |
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On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 14:44:49 -0800, Zoot Katz
wrote: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 16:27:45 -0500, , "Paul R" wrote: If politicians really cared about improving safety for cyclists, they would fix the problem (bad drivers, bad cyclists), not band-aid the symptoms (helmet laws). That's what I think, I think if helmet laws are effective at keeping people off bicycles we'll only see more of them enacted. Yes, we will, absolutely. Just as the CAA strongly supports "bike" paths that would force cyclists off the road. That and helmets are the nearly sole emphasis of 'cycling advocates', politicians (certainly here in Ontario - particularly Toronto) and a surprisingly large number of self-loathing cyclists. -- "Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber-barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber- baron's cruelty may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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