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spindthrift - magnatom antics
relevant wrote:
Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines e-mail to: Environmental and Protection Services, Taxis and Private Hire Enforcement Unit, 231 George Street, G1 1RX. Dear Sirs I understand that you have recently had a complaint made against the driver of the Private hire car with plate no.2266. I would like to point out to you that within the cycling community the complainant is a serial complainer about the driving habits of motorists - and always wears a video camera and sound recorder whilst he is cycling in order to ensnare unaware drivers. This is quite a common practice amongst a small group of cyclists which enables them to act as an agent provocateur and to ride in an irresponsible fashion which causes incidents which they then attempt to put the blame for, on other parties. Indeed, sometimes such serious accidents can be caused in this fashion that the threat or reality of a court case can lead to the cyclist receiving significant monetary compensation. It should be also be noted that taxi drivers, and the drivers of Private Hire vehicles are common targets, as complaints can be made to an authority which will then reprimand a driver, who in reality was not actually at fault. This however causes significant self-satisfaction to the cyclist and they are then able to brag about their "achievement" in internet cycling forums. I would draw your attention to the web site: http://www.youtube.com/user/magnatom where you may see for yourself the further activities of the complainant. Of particular interest are those videos where "magnatom" clearly points out to the driver that the video will be on u-tube and that a detailed closed up of the vehicles registration plate is recorded. One may wonder why this action is taken - it is most certainly unnecessary; but is certainly threatening and intimidation. The threats which are made to the drivers are probably common assault; and these criminal acts are then often compounded by the thumping and kicking of vehicles in order to cause criminal damage. I trust that you will exonerate the driver who was involved in this incident - and perhaps also circulate to the Taxi and Private Hire Companies the gist of this communication so that their own drivers are suitably forewarned. Regards I thoroughly applaud your letter and hope that it gets the right reaction. It might have helped to be a bit briefer, though! |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
I trust that you will exonerate the driver who was involved in this incident - and perhaps also circulate to the Taxi and Private Hire Companies the gist of this communication so that their own drivers are suitably forewarned. Bad driving that endangers other road users is commonplace and usually unreported because it is difficult to get evidence. That is no reason for exoneration when the evidence has been collected. |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
"relevant" wrote in message ... Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines [big snip] I notice on this one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7drPCPfWCIQ He admits to his mistake of not using the whole lane to overtake, but he misses the fact that he overtook a car that was indicating to change lane. While that is commonly done by aggressive drivers, if you do that on two wheels it is suicidal. If you are going to overtake a car that is already indicating, whether stationary or not, you do so at your own peril. Rights of way are meaningless when you are dead. |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
On 3 Feb, 07:06, relevant wrote:
Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines e-mail to: Environmental and Protection Services, Taxis and Private Hire Enforcement Unit, 231 George Street, G1 1RX. Dear Sirs I understand that you have recently had a complaint made against the driver of the Private hire car with plate no.2266. I would like to point out to you that within the cycling community the complainant is a serial complainer about the driving habits of motorists - and always wears a video camera and sound recorder whilst he is cycling in order to ensnare unaware drivers. This is quite a common practice amongst a small group of cyclists which enables them to act as an agent provocateur and to ride in an irresponsible fashion which causes incidents which they then attempt to put the blame for, on other parties. *Indeed, sometimes such serious accidents can be caused in this fashion that the threat or reality of a court case can lead to the cyclist receiving significant monetary compensation. It should be also be noted that taxi drivers, and the drivers of Private Hire vehicles are common targets, as complaints can be made to an authority which will then reprimand a driver, who in reality was not actually at fault. *This however causes significant self-satisfaction to the cyclist and they are then able to brag about their "achievement" in internet cycling forums. I would draw your attention to the web site:http://www.youtube.com/user/magnatomwhere you may see for yourself the further activities of the complainant. Of particular interest are those videos where "magnatom" clearly points out to the driver that the video will be on u-tube and that a detailed closed up of the vehicles registration plate is recorded. One may wonder why this action is taken - it is most certainly unnecessary; but is certainly threatening and intimidation. The threats which are made to the drivers are probably common assault; and these criminal acts are then often compounded by the thumping and kicking of vehicles in order to cause criminal damage. I trust that you will exonerate the driver who was involved in this incident - and perhaps also circulate to the Taxi and Private Hire Companies the gist of this communication so that their own drivers are suitably forewarned. Regards Do they respond to anonymous letters, or is "Regards" your name? |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
AndyC wrote:
"relevant" wrote: Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines [big snip] I notice on this one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7drPCPfWCIQ He admits to his mistake of not using the whole lane to overtake, but he misses the fact that he overtook a car that was indicating to change lane. While that is commonly done by aggressive drivers, if you do that on two wheels it is suicidal. If you are going to overtake a car that is already indicating, whether stationary or not, you do so at your own peril. Rights of way are meaningless when you are dead. In his video "Undertaking On A Roundabout", the same poster castigates a car-driver who passes him on the nearside on a large roundabout. The roundabout seems to be the one seen in the video referenced in the OP and the cyclist is way over to the offside, hard up against the island (incidentally passing over a distinctive hatched-off area). Perhaps he thinks that it is unlawful to pass on the nearside on a roundabout (it isn't). And if one really objects to being "undertaken", perhaps it'd be btter not to hog the offside edge of the one-way stretch of road which is the carriageway of a large roundabout. |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
JNugent wrote:
AndyC wrote: "relevant" wrote: Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines [big snip] I notice on this one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7drPCPfWCIQ He admits to his mistake of not using the whole lane to overtake, but he misses the fact that he overtook a car that was indicating to change lane. While that is commonly done by aggressive drivers, if you do that on two wheels it is suicidal. If you are going to overtake a car that is already indicating, whether stationary or not, you do so at your own peril. Rights of way are meaningless when you are dead. In his video "Undertaking On A Roundabout", the same poster castigates a car-driver who passes him on the nearside on a large roundabout. The roundabout seems to be the one seen in the video referenced in the OP and the cyclist is way over to the offside, hard up against the island (incidentally passing over a distinctive hatched-off area). Perhaps he thinks that it is unlawful to pass on the nearside on a roundabout (it isn't). And if one really objects to being "undertaken", perhaps it'd be btter not to hog the offside edge of the one-way stretch of road which is the carriageway of a large roundabout. Another of his videos ("White van-driver teaches me a lesson") appears to be functionally identical to the one involving the private hire car - recorded over the same route, in the same sort of conditions and almost at the same spot. Different motor vehicle, different driver, same cyclist. Anyone spot a pattern here? |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
Squashme wrote:
relevant wrote: Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines e-mail to: Environmental and Protection Services, Taxis and Private Hire Enforcement Unit, 231 George Street, G1 1RX. Dear Sirs I understand that you have recently had a complaint made against the driver of the Private hire car with plate no.2266. I would like to point out to you that within the cycling community the complainant is a serial complainer about the driving habits of motorists - and always wears a video camera and sound recorder whilst he is cycling in order to ensnare unaware drivers. [snip] I trust that you will exonerate the driver who was involved in this incident - and perhaps also circulate to the Taxi and Private Hire Companies the gist of this communication so that their own drivers are suitably forewarned. Regards Do they respond to anonymous letters, or is "Regards" your name? He should have included his correct full name and address - just like you do. |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
On 3 Feb, 11:26, JNugent wrote:
JNugent wrote: AndyC wrote: "relevant" wrote: Here is a letter I have sent - perhaps a few more on similar lines [big snip] I notice on this one: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7drPCPfWCIQ He admits to his mistake of not using the whole lane to overtake, but he misses the fact that he overtook a car that was indicating to change lane. While that is commonly done by aggressive drivers, if you do that on two wheels it is suicidal. If you are going to overtake a car that is already indicating, whether stationary or not, you do so at your own peril. Rights of way are meaningless when you are dead. In his video "Undertaking On A Roundabout", the same poster castigates a car-driver who passes him on the nearside on a large roundabout. The roundabout seems to be the one seen in the video referenced in the OP and the cyclist is way over to the offside, hard up against the island (incidentally passing over a distinctive hatched-off area). Perhaps he thinks that it is unlawful to pass on the nearside on a roundabout (it isn't). And if one really objects to being "undertaken", perhaps it'd be btter not to hog the offside edge of the one-way stretch of road which is the carriageway of a large roundabout. Another of his videos ("White van-driver teaches me a lesson") appears to be functionally identical to the one involving the private hire car - recorded over the same route, in the same sort of conditions and almost at the same spot. Different motor vehicle, different driver, same cyclist. Anyone spot a pattern here? Yes, but let's not be too harsh. Not all motorists are like that. Many are not aggressive and do respect other road-users. |
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spindthrift - magnatom antics
"Squashme" wrote in message ... On 3 Feb, 11:26, JNugent wrote: JNugent wrote: Another of his videos ("White van-driver teaches me a lesson") appears to be functionally identical to the one involving the private hire car - recorded over the same route, in the same sort of conditions and almost at the same spot. Different motor vehicle, different driver, same cyclist. Anyone spot a pattern here? Yes, but let's not be too harsh. Not all motorists are like that. Many are not aggressive and do respect other road-users. Point is though if there is a spot where the same incident tends to occur, it might be better to either find a way to stop it happening or to use another route. Trying to educate aggressive drivers is futile, because for every one that you have a run-in with, there will be another hundred who need to be enlightened. There is also a good argument, that when there is a driver who is harassing you by trying to overtake when it is not safe, you slow down or stop and get out of the way. It may not be "Right" but at least it means there is no nasty incident. |
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