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justice for death of a fellow two wheeler
No Pat, I'm not Mr. Dolan. I'm just someone who is totally astonished that you can write something so incredibly hypocritical when you yourself are throwing spitballs. For example, when you tell someone they are showing their ignorance and need to fix their ignorance or when you tell someone they need to read a dictionary and weep, that is exactly the kind of belittling of other people you are now objecting to. I see. So, Ed Dolan says these things countless times to MANY people and yet when one single person dares to tell him that he is wrong in the same language he uses, that is enough to "totally astonish" you? I get it now. He should be allowed to rant and rave untrue things and no one should ever attempt to bring him up short because that would be rude? If you will re-read the posts, you will see that I wasn't "belittling" a normal person--just one who has been running roughshod over people without someone calling him to account for it. From your post, I am seeing that you want everybody to bear his rantings without so much as a peep, and, if someone is actually bold enough to reply, that reply should be done in a sheeplike manner so as not to offend you. That is what "astonishes" me. You not only defer to the bully but you then defend him should someone finally say "enough!" By the way, none of these derogatory statements of you made were even directed at Ed Dolan-they were against other posters. So why do you believe it is okay for you to do it, but not anyone else (and then blame Ed?) See my remarks above. Evidently you believe everyone should not face up to the bully or they will be called the same as the bully. Sorry, but it won't wash. Yes, I noticed he was aiming them at other posters. But, this is not his own private website and I got tired of him highjacking it for his stupid means. Someone has to stand up against the bully. I see it will never be you. Don't you even notice your hypocrisy (or are you a politician)? No you are not in Ed's category, you are in a category all to yourself. It is amazing to me that you would bash somebody merely for standing up to a bully. Don't you notice your own lack of guts? Yes, you are in a category all to yourself---a category of one person who likes and supports bullies. By the way, for you to say anyone is grossly mistaken is also incorrect. As I noted in another post, the US government classifies itself as "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition" ref http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2128.html yeah, and that is a democracy. He absolutely said that this country is NOT a democracy in any way shape or from. So, he is wrong. S0 are you. Pat in TX |
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justice for death of a fellow two wheeler
No Pat, I'm not Mr. Dolan. I'm just someone who is totally astonished that you can write something so incredibly hypocritical when you yourself are throwing spitballs. For example, when you tell someone they are showing their ignorance and need to fix their ignorance or when you tell someone they need to read a dictionary and weep, that is exactly the kind of belittling of other people you are now objecting to. I see. So, Ed Dolan says these things countless times to MANY people and yet when one single person dares to tell him that he is wrong in the same language he uses, that is enough to "totally astonish" you? I get it now. He should be allowed to rant and rave untrue things and no one should ever attempt to bring him up short because that would be rude? If you will re-read the posts, you will see that I wasn't "belittling" a normal person--just one who has been running roughshod over people without someone calling him to account for it. From your post, I am seeing that you want everybody to bear his rantings without so much as a peep, and, if someone is actually bold enough to reply, that reply should be done in a sheeplike manner so as not to offend you. That is what "astonishes" me. You not only defer to the bully but you then defend him should someone finally say "enough!" By the way, none of these derogatory statements of you made were even directed at Ed Dolan-they were against other posters. So why do you believe it is okay for you to do it, but not anyone else (and then blame Ed?) See my remarks above. Evidently you believe everyone should not face up to the bully or they will be called the same as the bully. Sorry, but it won't wash. Yes, I noticed he was aiming them at other posters. But, this is not his own private website and I got tired of him highjacking it for his stupid means. Someone has to stand up against the bully. I see it will never be you. Don't you even notice your hypocrisy (or are you a politician)? No you are not in Ed's category, you are in a category all to yourself. It is amazing to me that you would bash somebody merely for standing up to a bully. Don't you notice your own lack of guts? Yes, you are in a category all to yourself---a category of one person who likes and supports bullies. By the way, for you to say anyone is grossly mistaken is also incorrect. As I noted in another post, the US government classifies itself as "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition" ref http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2128.html yeah, and that is a democracy. He absolutely said that this country is NOT a democracy in any way shape or from. So, he is wrong. S0 are you. Pat in TX |
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"Pat" wrote in message ... No Pat, I'm not Mr. Dolan. I'm just someone who is totally astonished that you can write something so incredibly hypocritical when you yourself are throwing spitballs. For example, when you tell someone they are showing their ignorance and need to fix their ignorance or when you tell someone they need to read a dictionary and weep, that is exactly the kind of belittling of other people you are now objecting to. I see. So, Ed Dolan says these things countless times to MANY people and yet when one single person dares to tell him that he is wrong in the same language he uses, that is enough to "totally astonish" you? I get it now. He should be allowed to rant and rave untrue things and no one should ever attempt to bring him up short because that would be rude? If you will re-read the posts, you will see that I wasn't "belittling" a normal person--just one who has been running roughshod over people without someone calling him to account for it. From your post, I am seeing that you want everybody to bear his rantings without so much as a peep, and, if someone is actually bold enough to reply, that reply should be done in a sheeplike manner so as not to offend you. That is what "astonishes" me. You not only defer to the bully but you then defend him should someone finally say "enough!" By the way, none of these derogatory statements of you made were even directed at Ed Dolan-they were against other posters. So why do you believe it is okay for you to do it, but not anyone else (and then blame Ed?) See my remarks above. Evidently you believe everyone should not face up to the bully or they will be called the same as the bully. Sorry, but it won't wash. Yes, I noticed he was aiming them at other posters. But, this is not his own private website and I got tired of him highjacking it for his stup id means. Someone has to stand up against the bully. I see it will never be you. Don't you even notice your hypocrisy (or are you a politician)? No you are not in Ed's category, you are in a category all to yourself. It is amazing to me that you would bash somebody merely for standing up to a bully. Don't you notice your own lack of guts? Yes, you are in a category all to yourself---a category of one person who likes and supports bullies. By the way, for you to say anyone is grossly mistaken is also incorrect. As I noted in another post, the US government classifies itself as "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition" ref http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2128.html yeah, and that is a democracy. He absolutely said that this country is NOT a democracy in any way shape or from. So, he is wrong. S0 are you. Pat in TX So Pat, in your mind being a total hypocrite and belittling other people not related to Ed Dolan is okay and is somehow standing up to Ed Dolan, which that takes guts like yours...Wow, you must really impress yourself. You're a real superhero of cyberspace. Also pointing out how the US government classifies itself is now wrong too since it doesn't match what you believe....and you're the ultimate authority on that, not the US government. The US government is in fact defined by whatever YOU decide it is. Thanks for that clarification. Brian |
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justice for death of a fellow two wheeler
"Pat" wrote in message ... No Pat, I'm not Mr. Dolan. I'm just someone who is totally astonished that you can write something so incredibly hypocritical when you yourself are throwing spitballs. For example, when you tell someone they are showing their ignorance and need to fix their ignorance or when you tell someone they need to read a dictionary and weep, that is exactly the kind of belittling of other people you are now objecting to. I see. So, Ed Dolan says these things countless times to MANY people and yet when one single person dares to tell him that he is wrong in the same language he uses, that is enough to "totally astonish" you? I get it now. He should be allowed to rant and rave untrue things and no one should ever attempt to bring him up short because that would be rude? If you will re-read the posts, you will see that I wasn't "belittling" a normal person--just one who has been running roughshod over people without someone calling him to account for it. From your post, I am seeing that you want everybody to bear his rantings without so much as a peep, and, if someone is actually bold enough to reply, that reply should be done in a sheeplike manner so as not to offend you. That is what "astonishes" me. You not only defer to the bully but you then defend him should someone finally say "enough!" By the way, none of these derogatory statements of you made were even directed at Ed Dolan-they were against other posters. So why do you believe it is okay for you to do it, but not anyone else (and then blame Ed?) See my remarks above. Evidently you believe everyone should not face up to the bully or they will be called the same as the bully. Sorry, but it won't wash. Yes, I noticed he was aiming them at other posters. But, this is not his own private website and I got tired of him highjacking it for his stup id means. Someone has to stand up against the bully. I see it will never be you. Don't you even notice your hypocrisy (or are you a politician)? No you are not in Ed's category, you are in a category all to yourself. It is amazing to me that you would bash somebody merely for standing up to a bully. Don't you notice your own lack of guts? Yes, you are in a category all to yourself---a category of one person who likes and supports bullies. By the way, for you to say anyone is grossly mistaken is also incorrect. As I noted in another post, the US government classifies itself as "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition" ref http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2128.html yeah, and that is a democracy. He absolutely said that this country is NOT a democracy in any way shape or from. So, he is wrong. S0 are you. Pat in TX So Pat, in your mind being a total hypocrite and belittling other people not related to Ed Dolan is okay and is somehow standing up to Ed Dolan, which that takes guts like yours...Wow, you must really impress yourself. You're a real superhero of cyberspace. Also pointing out how the US government classifies itself is now wrong too since it doesn't match what you believe....and you're the ultimate authority on that, not the US government. The US government is in fact defined by whatever YOU decide it is. Thanks for that clarification. Brian |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message om... snip William F. Buckley ran for the office of Mayor of New York City. He self destructed almost immediately, and so would we all. If I recollect correctly Mr. Buckley strongly advocated elevated bikeways for NYC. Pretty radical idea for an arch-conservative, eh? skip |
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message om... snip William F. Buckley ran for the office of Mayor of New York City. He self destructed almost immediately, and so would we all. If I recollect correctly Mr. Buckley strongly advocated elevated bikeways for NYC. Pretty radical idea for an arch-conservative, eh? skip |
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"brian hughes" wrote in message thlink.net...
"Pat" wrote in message ... No Pat, I'm not Mr. Dolan. I'm just someone who is totally astonished that you can write something so incredibly hypocritical when you yourself are throwing spitballs. For example, when you tell someone they are showing their ignorance and need to fix their ignorance or when you tell someone they need to read a dictionary and weep, that is exactly the kind of belittling of other people you are now objecting to. I see. So, Ed Dolan says these things countless times to MANY people and yet when one single person dares to tell him that he is wrong in the same language he uses, that is enough to "totally astonish" you? I get it now. He should be allowed to rant and rave untrue things and no one should ever attempt to bring him up short because that would be rude? If you will re-read the posts, you will see that I wasn't "belittling" a normal person--just one who has been running roughshod over people without someone calling him to account for it. From your post, I am seeing that you want everybody to bear his rantings without so much as a peep, and, if someone is actually bold enough to reply, that reply should be done in a sheeplike manner so as not to offend you. That is what "astonishes" me. You not only defer to the bully but you then defend him should someone finally say "enough!" Who is this Pat jerk from Texas? For some strange reason I am not seeing his posts on the Google ARBR web page. I am only getting his posts second hand from Mr. Brian Hughes. So here is a jerk (Pat) who has killed filed me and yet continues to discuss me and my posts and I do not even see his posts on the Google ARBR web page. Maybe he should un-kill file me if he wants to discuss me so I can get in on it. As much as I disagree with Mr. Sherman on almost everything under the sun, I do respect him for not taking the coward's way out and kill filing me like Pat of Texas does (can this guy really be from Texas?). But worse than being a coward is just the plain bad manners of discussing someone you have kill filed and therefore not making yourself available for a response. Congratulations Pat, you are the first one to ever do this, the mark of a true scoundrel. Tell me Pat, are you seeing your posts to me or about me on the Google web page? I am not seeing them so I do not know what the hell you are talking about. I can not take you on if I am not seeing your posts. In effect, you are having a one way conversation with yourself and with Mr. Hughes. I strongly suggest you un-kill file me and make sure your posts get on the Google web page if you would like to have a conversation with me instead of with just yourself. By the way, none of these derogatory statements of you made were even directed at Ed Dolan-they were against other posters. So why do you believe it is okay for you to do it, but not anyone else (and then blame Ed?) See my remarks above. Evidently you believe everyone should not face up to the bully or they will be called the same as the bully. Sorry, but it won't wash. Yes, I noticed he was aiming them at other posters. But, this is not his own private website and I got tired of him highjacking it for his stup id means. Someone has to stand up against the bully. I see it will never be you. Don't you even notice your hypocrisy (or are you a politician)? No you are not in Ed's category, you are in a category all to yourself. It is amazing to me that you would bash somebody merely for standing up to a bully. Don't you notice your own lack of guts? Yes, you are in a category all to yourself---a category of one person who likes and supports bullies. By the way, for you to say anyone is grossly mistaken is also incorrect. As I noted in another post, the US government classifies itself as "Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition" ref http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/...elds/2128.html yeah, and that is a democracy. He absolutely said that this country is NOT a democracy in any way shape or from. So, he is wrong. S0 are you. I don't believe I ever said that this country is not a democracy. On the other hand, this country is not run like a Vermont Town Hall meeting either or like the early city states of ancient Greece. I strongly suggest if you want to argue with me about any of this that you get online and get your head out of the sand where you have put it when you kill filed me. Either that, or stop discussing me behind my back where I cannot defend myself. Better to be a "bully" like me than a "coward" like you! Pat in TX So Pat, in your mind being a total hypocrite and belittling other people not related to Ed Dolan is okay and is somehow standing up to Ed Dolan, which that takes guts like yours...Wow, you must really impress yourself. You're a real superhero of cyberspace. Also pointing out how the US government classifies itself is now wrong too since it doesn't match what you believe....and you're the ultimate authority on that, not the US government. The US government is in fact defined by whatever YOU decide it is. Thanks for that clarification. Brian Great job Brian! You are almost up to my own high standards minus the foul language and the invective. I can't believe I am missing out on all this good repartee, but the fact is that I am not seeing his posts on the Google web page. If it weren't for you, I would not be seeing any of this. I wonder what is going on here? Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"skip" wrote in message ...
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message om... snip William F. Buckley ran for the office of Mayor of New York City. He self destructed almost immediately, and so would we all. If I recollect correctly Mr. Buckley strongly advocated elevated bikeways for NYC. Pretty radical idea for an arch-conservative, eh? skip Skip, I think Gore Vidal was also running along with Buckley too. Vidal is the world's champion liberal jackass of all time, but even he self destructed. We are way to quick to put politicians down in this country. They are highly intelligent as a class and as long as they are not corrupt I am willing to listen to them. I lived in NYC for several years in my long lost youth and I do not know how I would ever get around in that city on a bicycle. At the time I was a prolific user of the subways (where it was a 10 cent fare to go anywhere in the city) and I was also a walker, one of the few cities in this country where you can walk and never suffer a dull moment. Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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To think that the Soviets would ever have spent anything on their
people to make their lives better as opposed to armaments is naive in the extreme and marks you as a Soviet and Communist sympathizer. But almost all liberals and socialists have this red tinge. I think it (this red tinge) springs mostly from their hatred of capitalism and their great resentment at its success in the Western World. Ed Dolan - Minnesota Ed, you are consistent, I'll give you that. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative. Oscar Wilde |
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"DH" wrote in message ...
To think that the Soviets would ever have spent anything on their people to make their lives better as opposed to armaments is naive in the extreme and marks you as a Soviet and Communist sympathizer. But almost all liberals and socialists have this red tinge. I think it (this red tinge) springs mostly from their hatred of capitalism and their great resentment at its success in the Western World. Ed Dolan - Minnesota Ed, you are consistent, I'll give you that. Consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative. Oscar Wilde Now that the cold war is over and the Soviet Union has fallen like a rotten apple, I am unaccustomed to hearing any more excuses ever being made for them. When I do hear one, as you made in your previous post in this thread, I am taken aback and hardly know what to say. My cold war rhetoric has grown rusty from lack of use. I do not confuse the social welfare state with socialism and communism. They are two different birds altogether. But thorough going socialists really ought to know better by now. The fact is that that scheme of organizing a society just doesn't work. It goes against human nature and so is forever doomed. We need to learn to hate all utopian schemes as they invariably lead to nothing but tragedy for mankind. Liberals are not as bad as socialists but there is a strongly family resemblance nonetheless. I suspect the US is headed in the direction of the European welfare states. But that is not socialism. It probably is liberalism though. But it will not extend beyond seeing to the general welfare. Socialism, like communism, is as dead as a door nail for all eternity. The example of the Soviets has seen to that. That is why it is so hilarious whenever I spot the "red tinge". Only American university professors still believe any of that kind of crap! Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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