Fear of cycling

Per His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the
Bull**** Campaign:
I want to know the designer of my closest bike facility, give him a
list of flaws and tell him, "Sir, you are an idiot!"

It's probably the same guy that puts the bike racks out behind
the dumpsters.... -)
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PeteCresswell

On Mar 16, 9:22*am, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the Stop the
Bull**** Campaign:

I want to know the designer of my closest bike facility, give him a
list of flaws and tell him, "Sir, you are an idiot!"

It's probably the same guy that puts the bike racks out behind
the dumpsters.... -)

I think there was a hidden message in that.

But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

On Mar 16, 9:20*am, "(PeteCresswell)" wrote:
Per T m Sherm n _ ":

I have been professionally involved in infrastructure design and
construction work for over a decade, and have *never* encountered a
transportation facility being built as a prototype and tested, then
constructed for use. *The reasons for this are bloody obvious to anyone
involved.

Am I the only one, or is there a recognized (albeit unheeded)
argument that when a building or building complex is constructed,
no sidewalks should be put in.

Instead, everything gets turfed and they wait six months or a
year to see where the footpaths appear - and then pave same -
probably saving some money as well as winding up with footpaths
that are relevant.

Well, every project done in America should have a SUGGESTION BOX to
get feed back. Wouldn't that be sign of democracy as much as a two
party system?

They may act like God but even God made many mistakes.

"(PeteCresswell)" writes:

Per Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ":
I have been professionally involved in infrastructure design and
construction work for over a decade, and have *never* encountered a
transportation facility being built as a prototype and tested, then
constructed for use. The reasons for this are bloody obvious to anyone
involved.

Am I the only one, or is there a recognized (albeit unheeded)
argument that when a building or building complex is constructed,
no sidewalks should be put in.

Instead, everything gets turfed and they wait six months or a
year to see where the footpaths appear - and then pave same -
probably saving some money as well as winding up with footpaths
that are relevant.

Quite a few years ago I went to university in Austin, Texas. On a trip
back home, I talked to the father of one of my friends, who had worked
at UT several years ago. He told me that the plan you describe above
was used for the Physics, Math, and Astronomy building, which was
completed just after he left. He wanted to know how the sidewalks were
laid out.

I had to tell him that the building was entirely surrounded by concrete,
no grass remained at all.

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On Mar 16, 9:55*am, Radey Shouman wrote:
"(PeteCresswell)" writes:
Per T m Sherm n _ ":
I have been professionally involved in infrastructure design and
construction work for over a decade, and have *never* encountered a
transportation facility being built as a prototype and tested, then
constructed for use. *The reasons for this are bloody obvious to anyone
involved.

Am I the only one, or is there a recognized (albeit unheeded)
argument that when a building or building complex is constructed,
no sidewalks should be put in.

Instead, everything gets turfed and they wait six months or a
year to see where the footpaths appear - and then pave same -
probably saving some money as well as winding up with footpaths
that are relevant.

Quite a few years ago I went to university in Austin, Texas. *On a trip
back home, I talked to the father of one of my friends, who had worked
at UT several years ago. *He told me that the plan you describe above
was used for the Physics, Math, and Astronomy building, which was
completed just after he left. *He wanted to know how the sidewalks were
laid out.

I had to tell him that the building was entirely surrounded by concrete,
no grass remained at all.

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I often see products that are flawed at the design level and I wonder
if they couldn't test them with a few users. A wonderful product is
rendered useless and all is lost.

The "mixed facility" (mixing pedestrians, dogs and bicycles) at issue
has blinding lights making you squint at night, dangerous "temporary"
carpet at one end that rattles your bikes and other flaws, and they
have ignored my "barrage" of criticism at the local forum, even though
I can count hundreds of people that have read it (but not dared to
disagree with me).*

Where's the suggestion box?

* The 100' carpet was put in after my criticism and the car bumper
that almost made me fall headlong was removed, but I can not prove
cause and effect.

On 3/16/2011 8:38 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:
[...]
But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

Your area has a problem with cyclists leaving their feces on the ground?

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 3/16/2011 8:16 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 3/16/2011 8:38 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:
[...]
But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

Your area has a problem with cyclists leaving their feces on the ground?

Here is how Brussels has attempted to deal with this particular problem:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/March2010.htm.

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Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On 3/16/2011 9:18 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 3/16/2011 8:16 PM, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° wrote:
On 3/16/2011 8:38 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:
[...]
But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

Your area has a problem with cyclists leaving their feces on the ground?

Here is how Brussels has attempted to deal with this particular problem:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/March2010.htm.

As I get older, that seems less ridiculous.

On Mar 16, 9:16*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 3/16/2011 8:38 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:
* [...]

But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

Your area has a problem with cyclists leaving their feces on the ground?

It would send a powerful message that a cyclist squatted and did ****
right in their dog's path area.

I mean the dog owners have bags and everything but they need training.

On Mar 16, 9:18*pm, Tºm Shermªn™ °_° ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote:
On 3/16/2011 8:16 PM, T m Sherm n _ wrote:

On 3/16/2011 8:38 AM, His Highness the TibetanMonkey, originator of the
Stop the Bull**** Campaign wrote:
* [...]
But in my case, being a mixed facility, dog owners are the most
powerful of the components of said facilities. This is a wealthy area,
also populated by homeless. Pedestrians are insignificant, and
cyclists are an accident. My problem is when they don't pick up their
own ****.

Your area has a problem with cyclists leaving their feces on the ground?

Here is how Brussels has attempted to deal with this particular problem:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/March....

They thought of everything, huh?

We have a compounded problem though with dogs (some of them unleashed)
and stray cats.