Helmets and testing information

On Mar 25, 2:19*pm, wrote:


In answer to your question I would walk. Trying to carry stuff on a bike
is a fools errand.

B2003

In the last week, I have seen being carried by bicycle in east Hull, a
mattress, a very large rectangle of fibre board!, a dog, large pieces
of log on a bike trailer, a tramp with ten large carrier bags and any
number of people carrying bags of shopping. Just like in the 1950's
and none of them was fat.

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Simon Mason

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 06:26:11 +0000
Tom Crispin wrote:

This may well be true. But there is no compulsion to wear a cycle
helmet in the UK, yet they are quite a common sight among London
commuters.

Only because they think it's an inconvenience worth tolerating,
because it's magic.

On Mar 25, 5:54*pm, The Medway Handyman
wrote:
On 25/03/2011 10:06, Simon Mason wrote:

On Mar 24, 10:37 pm, *wrote:
On Thu, 24 Mar 2011 13:58:04 -0700 (PDT), Simon *wrote:

snip

So then WTF did you post this rubbish to a cycling newsgroup, or do you not
understand the meaning of the word 'cycle'?

Have you not met "Judith" before?

Well I kept asking *you* what were the differences between the way motorcycle helmets and cycle
helmets were tested *- but you had no idea - it was much too difficult for the Simple brain.

Hasn't it occurred to you that I might not give a toss about helmets?

For someone who doesn't give a toss you replied to the OP more than
anyone else...

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Dave - The Medway Handymanwww.medwayhandyman.co.uk

Yes and it still hasn't sunk in.

I
Don't
Give
A
Toss
About
Helmets

There, maybe it will sink in lengthways on, like in a sieve.

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Simon Mason

On Mar 25, 6:45*pm, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote:

I could be wrong here but I don't recall seeing a bike in Netherlands
with *only* a back-pedal brake, or at least not as supplied (some have
evidence of brakes that were there once but have fallen off or apart).
Do we have any evidence that it is legal to sell a bike with only a
coater brake in .nl? I am pretty confident it's not legal in .fr or .de.

The CTC has a useful page on the legal construction of bikes.

http://www.ctc.org.uk/DesktopDefault.aspx?TabID=4073

However, at the end they only really cover the legality of a
'temporarily imported' bike and don't really address the issue of
permanent use. Interestingly, if you have a horn instead of a bell, it
is illegal to ride it in the rest of the EU. And in D, you need lamps
fitted 24/7.

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Simon Mason

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:34:07 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason wrote:

On Mar 25, 4:48*pm, Judith wrote:

I'll ask him what he thinks of reflectors and recumbents if you wish?

Oh - but his opinion won't count for anything because we know that they are a legal requirement
don't we.

It is probably light enough at this time of the year for reflectors
not to be required.
Come back in September.



Your understanding of the law comes as no surprise.

Now why is that people call you Simple?

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Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so
cannot be of any consequence.
(Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever)

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 11:31:52 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason wrote:

On Mar 25, 2:36*pm, Judith wrote:

I can assure you that I spoke to a solicitor and asked if I would be breaking the law to ride my
Dutch bike on a UK road.

He said that in his opinion it would not be - given that such bikes were perfectly legal in another
European Country.

*Any* European country, or any country in the European Union?
There is a huge difference - sounds like your pet solicitor doesn't
know what they are talking about.
So if I bought a bike in Belarus or Albania it would therefore be
legal to ride in the UK?


You are right - my mistake.


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Stopping distances for bicycles do not appear in the HC ... and so
cannot be of any consequence.
(Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20 mph limits - and thinks it's clever)

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 18:45:37 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:



I could be wrong here but I don't recall seeing a bike in Netherlands
with *only* a back-pedal brake, or at least not as supplied (some have
evidence of brakes that were there once but have fallen off or apart).
Do we have any evidence that it is legal to sell a bike with only a
coater brake in .nl? I am pretty confident it's not legal in .fr or .de.


Oh dear - poor old Porky - no observation skills either.

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"I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. I would challenge judith
to find the place where I said I encourage my children to wear helmets." Guy Chapman
Judith then produced the web page where he said "I encourage my children to wear helmets."
Later that day Chapman immediately added the following to the web page:
"This page is out of date and preserved only for convenience" but he left the date last updated as 31/08/2004.

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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On 24/03/2011 20:57, alan.holmes wrote:
"Simon wrote in message
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On Mar 23, 9:16 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:29:24 -0000, "alan.holmes"
wrote:

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Have you ever ridden a bicycle?

Yes - I currently do so.

Some claim it is illegal because it only has a single back pedal
brake.

It is obviously very dangerous as it is a Dutch bike - and they have
no
experience of making bikes
do they?

Which is more dangerous then: riding one of those, or riding without a
helmet (both, say, in central London)?

I would love to see statistics which, if all the Boris-bikes are
replaced
with those Dutch models, show whether bike accidents have decreased or
increased (taking of account that there would likely be a lot fewer
rentals).

Just out of interest, does Boris require people renting bikes to use a
helmet?


No, of course not.
Why should he?

Because the BMA say that people who ride bikes 'must' wear a helmet, or
so
Judith keeps telling us!

So you are more knowledgeable then the BMA?

What are your qualifications then?

I'm just quoting Judith!

Please read all the posts!




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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"The Medway Handyman" wrote in message
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On 25/03/2011 07:27, Peter Keller wrote:
On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 00:10:41 +0000, The Medway Handyman wrote:

On 24/03/2011 20:57, alan.holmes wrote:
"Simon wrote in message
news:0fffe4d8-bea7-46be-b66d-
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On Mar 23, 9:16 pm, wrote:
wrote in message

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wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:29:24 -0000, "alan.holmes"
wrote:

snip

Have you ever ridden a bicycle?

Yes - I currently do so.

Some claim it is illegal because it only has a single back pedal
brake.

It is obviously very dangerous as it is a Dutch bike - and they have
no experience of making bikes
do they?

Which is more dangerous then: riding one of those, or riding without
a helmet (both, say, in central London)?

I would love to see statistics which, if all the Boris-bikes are
replaced
with those Dutch models, show whether bike accidents have decreased
or increased (taking of account that there would likely be a lot
fewer rentals).

Just out of interest, does Boris require people renting bikes to use a
helmet?


No, of course not.
Why should he?

Because the BMA say that people who ride bikes 'must' wear a helmet, or
so Judith keeps telling us!

So you are more knowledgeable then the BMA?

What are your qualifications then?

Yes

What are your qualifications then?

Better than yours it would seem!





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Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

"Simon Mason" wrote in message
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On Mar 24, 8:55 pm, "alan.holmes" wrote:
"Judith" wrote in message

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On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 13:46:27 +0000, Judith
wrote:

I cannot understand why so many cyclists here are against helmets - and
ridicule them at every
opportunity - calling them foam hats - ridiculing the speed to which
they
are tested.

Oh bugger - I am sorry.

I have just realised that all the manufacturing details and processes
and
the testing details which
I posted were referring to Motorcycle helmets rather than cycle helmets
in
particular.

So then WTF did you post this rubbish to a cycling newsgroup, or do you
not
understand the meaning of the word 'cycle'?


Have you not met "Judith" before?

Afraid not, this is my first experience of 'her'!

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Simon Mason