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"Rigid Class System in Europe" Bob Roll Comments
I wrote:
Right, I wasn't implying that satisfaction is a reliable metric. In fact, I was citing an ancient study because I don't usually pay any attention to satisfaction data so I'm not up-to-date on it. I do, however, have a more appropriate example, even though it's an anecdote. A friend was trying to demonstrate that patient satisfaction surveys aren't terribly useful as an objective measure of quality of care. He got permission to do in-depth interviews with women who had been recently discharged after childbirth from a couple of hospitals in his area. Almost everyone was very satisfied with their care, citing the friendliness of the staff, the attractiveness of the rooms, the ability to have their partners with them, that sort of thing. However, when he went deeper into the interviews he uncovered nearly half who either had themselves or whose babies had post-natal complications: almost all of them were minor, but they were still conditions that could be linked to sub-standard care. He gave a report to the hospitals' administrations. You can see this coming: rather than taking this as evidence that patient satisfaction doesn't capture all aspects of quality of care, the administrations took it as a sign that they had been successful in getting the staff to be friendly and that their room remodeling had been successful. Not the same study, but same result: http://online.wsj.com/article_email/...zUwODc0Wj.html |
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"Rigid Class System in Europe" Bob Roll Comments
On 6 Sep 2006 23:22:05 -0700, "Pudd'nhead Wilson"
wrote: Robert Chung wrote: I'd say anyone who thinks that waiting time is the only determinant of quality of care isn't competent to discuss quality of care. I'd say that no care is about as bad as it gets, especially when you're talking about diagnostic procedures. |
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"Rigid Class System in Europe" Bob Roll Comments
in 526117 20060907 164606 Jack Hollis wrote:
On 6 Sep 2006 23:22:05 -0700, "Pudd'nhead Wilson" wrote: Robert Chung wrote: I'd say anyone who thinks that waiting time is the only determinant of quality of care isn't competent to discuss quality of care. I'd say that no care is about as bad as it gets, especially when you're talking about diagnostic procedures. Jack, what is it with you and this chip on your shoulder? Those of us who live in the UK are generally happy with the NHS. By your own admission you are repeating 20-year-old moans of an ex-pat. |
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"Rigid Class System in Europe" Bob Roll Comments
Pudd'nhead Wilson wrote:
Yes, do get back to "interesting" talk about bike racing. Dumbass, Don't let anyone see you with long white socks and Oakleys. Your credibility on health care policy will be in the ****ter for sure. If you guys want something interesting, check out my business web page: http://www.rsplastic.com/ Bob 'Call me Robert' Schwartz |
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
snip If you guys want something interesting, check out my business web page: http://www.rsplastic.com/ Do you ever wake up with a nagging feeling that you've overinflated your tires? -- Bill Asher |
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Bob Martin wrote:
Jack, what is it with you and this chip on your shoulder? His brand of kook-fu is very powerful. |
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Jack Hollis, quoting gwhite, wrote:
Robert Chung wrote: I'd say anyone who thinks that waiting time is the only determinant of quality of care isn't competent to discuss quality of care. I'd say that no care is about as bad as it gets, especially when you're talking about diagnostic procedures. Then we agree on one of the reasons why general health status in the US is worse than in the UK: we've got 45 million uninsured and they've got universal coverage. But even for those who are insured and have access to care, the UK appears to do no worse and sometimes better: http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/295/17/2037 and http://roysocmed.ac.uk/media/downloa...09diabetes.pdf And it costs them less. |
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William Asher wrote:
Bob Schwartz wrote: snip If you guys want something interesting, check out my business web page: http://www.rsplastic.com/ Do you ever wake up with a nagging feeling that you've overinflated your tires? I also work with fatty masters: http://www.rsplastic.com/malebreastreduc.php Bob Schwartz |
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
I also work with fatty masters: http://www.rsplastic.com/malebreastreduc.php You work with fatheads? |
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"Rigid Class System in Europe" Bob Roll Comments
Bob Schwartz wrote: William Asher wrote: Bob Schwartz wrote: snip If you guys want something interesting, check out my business web page: http://www.rsplastic.com/ Do you ever wake up with a nagging feeling that you've overinflated your tires? I also work with fatty masters: http://www.rsplastic.com/malebreastreduc.php Bob Schwartz So how many gynecomastias do you get to fix every year, ansd how many are "athletes"? Bill C |
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