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On Sep 5, 10:01*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 8:32 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Most patients will not bother to learn anything at all about their disease, so of course you stand out in that respect. But even so, your doctors would probably prefer that you leave the practice of medicine to them. Wrong once more. *When asked how they felt about having an informed patient, they were not the least bit troubled. *If I got the impression that a doctor was the least bit insecure an threatened by a patient being informed, he or show would no longer be my doctor. *My doctors indicated that they welcomed and preferred informed patients because then they were able to are able to engage in a productive discussion concerning state of health and treatment options involving the patient in the process. *All of this is so elementary and common sense approach that it should not even come into question. Doctors prefer not to discuss anything with their patients. All they want is that the patient follow their instructions and take their advice on procedures and medications. In your not so humble opinion stated as fact, you meant to say. My doctors do not fall into this category. When one encounters a doctor that is unwilling to discuss matters, that precludes the patient from taking responsibility for and participating in their own health care. If that is the kind of doctors you have, then it is time to look elsewhere. Well, they pretend to be liberal arts oriented, but they really are not.. All that ever comes out of Catholic colleges are a lot of students who go on to law and medical schools, neither of which have anything to do with the liberal arts. When religion informs everything that is studied, then the liberals arts are dead and buried. Jesuit institutions are notorious for their ability to indoctrinate. More errant opinion unsupported by facts or evidence??? *The term liberal arts refers to a curriculum that imparts general knowledge and develops the student’s rational thought and intellectual capabilities, unlike the professional, vocational, and technical curricula emphasizing specialization. *Contemporary liberal arts comprise studying literature, languages, philosophy, history, mathematics, and science [also art and music]. *They were all part of my curriculum. *By the way, not all my teachers were Jesuits. *Loyola employs lay teachers as well, but I digress. *I feel that I received a very good education regardless of what you have to say. Any teacher employed in a Jesuit institution will have to kowtow to the prevailing philosophy, or at least not go against it. It is possible to take a liberals arts course and that it not be in the least liberal, most especially if it is informed and constrained by religion. More opinion stated as fact. I attended Loyola. You didn't. It is logical to assume that I am in a better position to judge whether religion constrained lay teachers or the teaching of liberal arts courses. I did not encounter any your imagined constraints. Interesting how you chose to use the term indoctrinate since that appears to be one of your objectives in newsgroups and you do a mighty poor job of it I have to say. My whole philosophy is to create skepticism about everything that is so-called 'known' under the sun. I leave dissension and consternation in my wake wherever I go. I am especially death on political correctness. That is what I do a good job at. In this exchange, I have presented facts which you have predictably have countered not with skepticism, but rather with antagonism in the form of unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture. Why because when it come to debate that is just the best the you can do. Granted dissension is your thing but what you leave in your wake is a dispassionate, unimpressed and disnterested readership, the very audience whose attention you strive to aim to elicit. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Sep 5, 10:01 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] My whole philosophy is to create skepticism about everything that is so-called 'known' under the sun. I leave dissension and consternation in my wake wherever I go. I am especially death on political correctness. That is what I do a good job at. In this exchange, I have presented facts which you have predictably have countered not with skepticism, but rather with antagonism in the form of unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture. Why because when it come to debate that is just the best the you can do. Granted dissension is your thing but what you leave in your wake is a dispassionate, unimpressed and disnterested readership, the very audience whose attention you strive to aim to elicit. All you leave in your wake is terminal boredom. You express nothing but conventional opinions. Your earnestness is almost childlike. You must be a trial and a tribulation to everyone around you. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Sep 5, 10:30 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] This would normally get a reply from me since I am a natural born ass kicker, but I think Jim McNamara does not have my killer instinct. He proved that much with the Ed Gin episode on ARBR from some years ago. After all, he is married and has two dogs. He is not single and a cat person like you and me. Same old tiresome masticated and regurgitated nonsense from the purvey of bull****, but that is what I have come to expect form Dolan. Ed continues to remain is obviously still hung up on Ed Gin. Hardly a month passes without Ed invoking his name and dredging up the past where he obviously continues to reside, stuck in a time warp. Delusional Ed apparently thinks that being single and a cat person is some kind of elevated stature in life. First off, no woman would ever put up with the likes of Dolan and and in the second place once again Ed has his facts wrong. I have had a cat in the past. As far as ass kicking goes, from behind the safe confines of keyboard and monitor ... well, there's just not much in it really since not an ounce of courage is required. I ass kick with words. I leave it do lesser types to ass kick physically. There is never any shortage of the latter type whereas there often is a shortage of the former type. Women are the most awful bores God ever created. Even a scalawag whiner like Jim McNamara is more interesting to me. What amazes me is that he somehow found Ed Gin an interesting person. Will wonders never cease! Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Sep 5, 7:50 pm, "T°m Sherm@n" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI $southslope.net" wrote: On 9/5/2011 2:33 AM, Edward Dolan wrote: [...] I know you went to Loyola because you told me so. All Catholic colleges require that you waste inordinate amounts of time on courses like religion and philosophy, which is why I never went to a Catholic college. Catholic colleges are good at preparing students for law and medical schools, but terrible at any of the liberal arts. Reason? Too much religion. Most Loyola (Chicago) students, faculty and staff end up on LSD at one time or another. I must be the exception then if you mean lysergic acid diethylamide. If you are referring to campus residence ... lake shore dormitory, I attended as a commuter. Nope, you should have ass kicked him as you should have ass kicked Ed Gin. You clearly lack the killer instinct. I'll be damned if I will defend Loyola for you although I am tempted. What Tom Sherman knows about LSD you could put in a thimble with room to spare. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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""T°m Sherm@n"" wrote in message ...
On 9/5/2011 2:33 AM, Edward Dolan wrote: [...] I know you went to Loyola because you told me so. All Catholic colleges require that you waste inordinate amounts of time on courses like religion and philosophy, which is why I never went to a Catholic college. Catholic colleges are good at preparing students for law and medical schools, but terrible at any of the liberal arts. Reason? Too much religion. Most Loyola (Chicago) students, faculty and staff end up on LSD at one time or another. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W I am a vehicular cyclist. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If they drove there last winter they might have spent more time than anticipated. __ gotbent |
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On 9/6/2011 12:11 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
On Sep 5, 7:50�pm, "T�m Sherm@n"""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI $southslope.net" wrote: On 9/5/2011 2:33 AM, Edward Dolan wrote: [...] I know you went to Loyola because you told me so. All Catholic colleges require that you waste inordinate amounts of time on �courses like religion and philosophy, which is why I never went to a Catholic college. Catholic colleges are good at preparing students for law and medical schools, but terrible at any of the liberal arts. Reason? Too much religion. Most Loyola (Chicago) students, faculty and staff end up on LSD at one time or another. I must be the exception then if you mean lysergic acid diethylamide. If you are referring to campus residence ... lake shore dormitory, I attended as a commuter. Never head south past the Loyola campus on Sheridan Road, then go around the bend? -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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On Sep 6, 6:52*pm, "T°m Sherm@n" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI
$southslope.net" wrote: On 9/6/2011 12:11 PM, JimmyMac wrote: On Sep 5, 7:50 pm, "T m Sherm@n"""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI $southslope.net" *wrote: On 9/5/2011 2:33 AM, Edward Dolan wrote: [...] I know you went to Loyola because you told me so. All Catholic colleges require that you waste inordinate amounts of time on courses like religion and philosophy, which is why I never went to a Catholic college. Catholic colleges are good at preparing students for law and medical schools, but terrible at any of the liberal arts. Reason? Too much religion. Most Loyola (Chicago) students, faculty and staff end up on LSD at one time or another. I must be the exception then if you mean lysergic acid diethylamide. If you are referring to campus residence ... lake shore dormitory, I attended as a commuter. Never head south past the Loyola campus on Sheridan Road, then go around the bend? Loyola has two campuses, actually. Not sure what you are getting at here, but I'm familiar with much of Sheridan road, having lived near it and having cycled on much of it as well. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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On Sep 6, 2:49*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 7:50 pm, "T m Sherm@n" ""twshermanREMOVE\"@THI $southslope.net" wrote: On 9/5/2011 2:33 AM, Edward Dolan wrote: [...] I know you went to Loyola because you told me so. All Catholic colleges require that you waste inordinate amounts of time on courses like religion and philosophy, which is why I never went to a Catholic college. Catholic colleges are good at preparing students for law and medical schools, but terrible at any of the liberal arts. Reason? Too much religion. Most Loyola (Chicago) students, faculty and staff end up on LSD at one time or another. I must be the exception then if you mean lysergic acid diethylamide. If you are referring to campus residence ... lake shore dormitory, I attended as a commuter. Nope, you should have ass kicked him as you should have ass kicked Ed Gin.. You clearly lack the killer instinct. I'll be damned if I will defend Loyola for you although I am tempted. Loyola is not in need of defense, yours or mine, It stands on its own merits. As concerns ass kicking, only those who get completey out of line require that and you are first in line. What Tom Sherman knows about LSD you could put in a thimble with room to spare. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Sep 6, 2:29*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 10:01 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] My whole philosophy is to create skepticism about everything that is so-called 'known' under the sun. I leave dissension and consternation in my wake wherever I go. I am especially death on political correctness. That is what I do a good job at. In this exchange, I have presented facts which you have predictably have countered not with skepticism, but *rather with antagonism in the form of unsubstantiated opinion and conjecture. *Why because when it come to debate that is just the best the you can do. *Granted dissension is your thing but what you leave in your wake is a dispassionate, unimpressed and disinterested readership, the very audience whose attention you strive to aim to elicit. All you leave in your wake is terminal boredom. You express nothing but conventional opinions. Your earnestness is almost childlike. You must be a trial and a tribulation to everyone around you. There you go again confusing facts with opinion. I present you with facts and you reply with conjecture based on unsubstantiated opinion, and you think that doesn't bore the readers delusional one? At least I can say that I have others around me unlike you, a friendless hermit. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Sep 6, 2:38*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Sep 5, 10:30 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] This would normally get a reply from me since I am a natural born ass kicker, but I think Jim McNamara does not have my killer instinct. He proved that much with the Ed Gin episode on ARBR from some years ago. After all, he is married and has two dogs. He is not single and a cat person like you and me. Same old tiresome masticated and regurgitated nonsense from the purvey of bull****, but that is what I have come to expect form Dolan. *Ed continues to remain is obviously still hung up on Ed Gin. *Hardly a month passes without Ed invoking his name and dredging up the past where he obviously continues to reside, stuck in a time warp. Delusional Ed apparently thinks that being single and a cat person is some kind of elevated stature in life. *First off, no woman would ever put up with the likes of Dolan and and in the second place once again Ed has his facts wrong. *I have had a cat in the past. *As far as ass kicking goes, from behind the safe confines of keyboard and monitor ... well, there's just not much in it really since not an ounce of courage is required. I ass kick with words. I leave it do lesser types to ass kick physically. There is never any shortage of the latter type whereas there often is a shortage of the former type. OK, whatever ... you gutless wonder! Women are the most awful bores God ever created. In the opinion of the Minnesota misogynist. What do your hangups have to do with the subject matter being discussed? Diversion duly noted. Jim McNamara is more interesting to me. What amazes me is that he somehow found Ed Gin an interesting person. Will wonders never cease! You are a purveyor of disinformation ... now that is a wonder that never ceases. I haven't had anything to do with Ed Gin for over a decade. You on the other hand, who only encountered the guy only on the internet ,cannot cease from dredging up his name and forum events form the past. It is time long overdue for you to let it go. Have you discussed your obsession with yours with your therapist? Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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