Filtering

On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 05:03:01 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
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On Feb 8, 12:14*pm, JNugent wrote:
Adam Lea wrote:
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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:31:06 -0800 (PST), Squashme
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Should I point out that there is a small discussion of filtering (by
motorbikes) over in uk.rec.driving?
No, best not.
I am surprised that you have mentioned the thread - cyclists are going
to get a stuffing in it.

I must say - well done, and many thanks for the heads up.
One of the advantages of motorcycling (and cycling) is that you can filter
past stationary or slow moving traffic. It obviously needs care when done.
If it is done recklessly and you cause an accident then you could be
deemed to be at fault. Otherwise, and AFAIK, there is no law prohibiting
it.

But, some drivers don't like it. It's kinda like jumping their queue :-)

Somewhat surprising drivers don't like it, since if motorcyclists wait in
the queue they are taking up space in the queue and making the queue longer
for those behind them. This could be crucial in determining who gets through
the lights before they change back to red.

Thus filtering is more space efficient, and helps get more traffic through
the junction.

There is rarely any disadvantage in being overtaken by a motor-cyclist. When
the lights turn green, he disappears over the horizon.

Exactly. These people don't dislike being overtaken because they
think it'll lengthen their journey. They're purely motivated by
spite: "If I can't/won't go any faster, I don't want anyone else to
benefit from doing so either". You see it all the time: even though
there aren't many such *******, it only takes a few of them to ruin
things for a lot of people. The bottom line is that if they won't
play nicely and share our limited roadspace like grown-ups, they
shouldn't be allowed to drive at all.

And these are the people who design the cycle "facilities".

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On Sat, 7 Feb 2009 16:31:06 -0800 (PST), Squashme
wrote:


Should I point out that there is a small discussion of filtering (by
motorbikes) over in uk.rec.driving?
No, best not.


I am surprised that you have mentioned the thread - cyclists are going
to get a stuffing in it.


Oh dear, it rather looks like it's the cagers that are getting stuffed
instead.