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Old January 11th 11, 07:19 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_3_]
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists
doing the same, despite them being much more dangerous.

"Officers investigating a hit-and-run crash in Norwich which left a
boy with serious head injuries have appealed to the driver to give
himself up.

A Peugeot 206 crashed into the 14-year-old, his sister, 12, and father
at a bus stop in Costessesy on Saturday.

The boy is in a stable condition in hospital while his father and
sister sustained minor injuries.

Sgt Geoff Bowers said: "I would like to make a direct appeal to the
driver to come forward and do the right thing."
Car recovered

He added: "This was a nasty collision which has left a 14-year-old boy
in hospital with serious injuries.

"I would appeal to anyone who may have seen the vehicle prior to the
incident or immediately after to contact police as they could hold
vital information."

The incident happened at about 1750 GMT in Norwich Road, close to the
Cherry Tree pub.

The black Peugeot was recovered a short while after the incident on
Darrell Road on the nearby Larkman estate and has the registration
X707 HPP, police said.

Inquiries to trace the driver of the Peugeot, which was not
registered, continue, a Norfolk Police spokesman added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-12156639

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Old January 11th 11, 07:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another OT post from Doug

Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists


A driving licence is a licence to drive.


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Old January 11th 11, 07:32 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
Doug[_3_]
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

On Jan 11, 7:26*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists


A driving licence is a licence to drive.

Yes, drive a car-weapon. The only difference between that and a sword
or a gun is that if you accidentally kill someone with it you will get
a much lighter punishment.

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Old January 11th 11, 07:51 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

Doug wrote:
On Jan 11, 7:26 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists


A driving licence is a licence to drive.

Yes, drive a car-weapon. The only difference between that and a sword
or a gun is that if you accidentally kill someone with it you will get
a much lighter punishment.


and what is your solution to the problem outlined in the report:unlicenced,
uninsured drivers of unregistered cars (probably a youth in this case.) How
would you stop them driving when they can?


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Old January 11th 11, 08:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

On Jan 11, 7:51*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
On Jan 11, 7:26 am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists


A driving licence is a licence to drive.


Yes, drive a car-weapon. The only difference between that and a sword
or a gun is that if you accidentally kill someone with it you will get
a much lighter punishment.


and what is your solution to the problem outlined in the report:unlicenced,
uninsured drivers of unregistered cars (probably a youth in this case.) *How
would you stop them driving when they can?


Doug doesn't do solutions. That would require thought and analysis,
which would soon send him into fits of his own hypocrisy, as he
realises how impractical his own suggestions are.
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Old January 11th 11, 08:28 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
FrengaX
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

On Jan 11, 7:19*am, Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists
doing the same, despite them being much more dangerous.


Wrong again. Thanks to you, we hear about it all the time, and neither
are we impressed nor do we consider it THE major problem of our time.
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Old January 11th 11, 08:54 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

On 11/01/2011 07:19, Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists
doing the same, despite them being much more dangerous.

"Officers investigating a hit-and-run crash in Norwich which left a
boy with serious head injuries have appealed to the driver to give
himself up.

A Peugeot 206 crashed into the 14-year-old, his sister, 12, and father
at a bus stop in Costessesy on Saturday.

The boy is in a stable condition in hospital while his father and
sister sustained minor injuries.

Sgt Geoff Bowers said: "I would like to make a direct appeal to the
driver to come forward and do the right thing."
Car recovered

He added: "This was a nasty collision which has left a 14-year-old boy
in hospital with serious injuries.

"I would appeal to anyone who may have seen the vehicle prior to the
incident or immediately after to contact police as they could hold
vital information."

The incident happened at about 1750 GMT in Norwich Road, close to the
Cherry Tree pub.

The black Peugeot was recovered a short while after the incident on
Darrell Road on the nearby Larkman estate and has the registration
X707 HPP, police said.

Inquiries to trace the driver of the Peugeot, which was not
registered, continue, a Norfolk Police spokesman added.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-12156639

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I am sure that every motorist on this NG will condemn this act, will you
condemn pavement cycling.

This crash happened with an unregistered vehicle & was quite possibly
driven by an unlicensed driver & the crash was almost certainly not
deliberate, unlike pavement cycling which is deliberate.
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Old January 11th 11, 09:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

On 11/01/2011 07:32, Doug wrote:
On Jan 11, 7:26 am, wrote:
Doug wrote:
We always hear about heavily criticised pavement cyclists very
occasionally causing injuries but seldom about pavement motorists


A driving licence is a licence to drive.

Yes, drive a car-weapon.
or a gun is that if you accidentally kill someone with it you will get
a much lighter punishment.


You are right that there is a difference when someone is accidentally
injured by either mode. The difference is that accidental shootings are
treated as accidents and there are no charges available where no intent
can be shown. As for driving, there is a raft of motoring-only laws
that have been created especially to help ensure that drivers can be
charged with at least something - even if (as in all but a minute number
of cases) no intent can be shown.

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Old January 11th 11, 01:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries


"Doug" wrote

"Officers investigating a hit-and-run crash in Norwich which left a
boy with serious head injuries have appealed to the driver to give
himself up.

A Peugeot 206 crashed into the 14-year-old, his sister, 12, and father
at a bus stop in Costessesy on Saturday.


If the family had been using a car it would never have happened. How stupid
could they get? Standing at a bus stop is not only likely to make you cold
and cause you ill-health, it's obviously dangerous too.

John.


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Old January 11th 11, 02:39 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.legal
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Default And yet again another pavement motorist causing injuries

"Matt B" wrote in message
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You are right that there is a difference when someone is accidentally
injured by either mode. The difference is that accidental shootings are
treated as accidents and there are no charges available where no intent
can be shown.

However anyone involved in a shooting accident is going to looked at very
carefully by his firearms licensing authority. Even if no criminal charges
are made, it is likely that he will lose his licence.

As for driving, there is a raft of motoring-only laws that have been
created especially to help ensure that drivers can be charged with at
least something - even if (as in all but a minute number of cases) no
intent can be shown.

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