Not a good day for the Rainbow Jersey

This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.
Good for van Summeren; a fine reward for work done for others, but
this was negative racing meant not to win, or meant *less* to win,
than to try to prevent another (aptly nicknamed Spartacus) from
winning. I mean to say, tacticss that don't exactly smell good even at
the WNCS, in the Cat 5's.
IMHO
--D-y

On Apr 10, 11:28*am, --D-y wrote:

This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.

dumbass,

since cycling is a team sport hushovd also won, so it was a good day
for him.

next time post your noobie analysis on the cyclingnews forums where it
belongs.

On Apr 10, 10:55*am, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Apr 10, 11:28*am, --D-y wrote:

This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.

dumbass,

since cycling is a team sport hushovd also won, so it was a good day
for him.

next time post your noobie analysis on the cyclingnews forums where it
belongs.

First USCF license in 1980. First sewups in '72.

Comments stand. Negative teamwork to defeat a stronger opponent--
somewhat stinky but fine, except for having the Rainbow Jersey on his
back.
"Team orders" are no justification.

Since you're such an expert, you'll remember who the rider was who
went back for LANCE's water bottles while he (the team rider) was
wearing the Yellow Jersey in the Tour de France, and the large amount
of well-deserved flak LANCE & Co. got for dishonoring the Yellow
Jersey from the Press (mostly composed of long-time followers of
bicycle racing and the Tour de France).

I post here when I want and as I want, just like everyone else, and
just like I always have.

If you want to disagree with opinion stated here-- and clearly labeled
as such-- I suggest you do so minus the name-calling and attempted
bullying. Up to you!
--D-y

On Apr 10, 10:28*am, --D-y wrote:
This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.
Good for van Summeren; a fine reward for work done for others, but
this was negative racing meant not to win, or meant *less* to win,
than to try to prevent another (aptly nicknamed Spartacus) from
winning. I mean to say, tacticss that don't exactly smell good even at
the WNCS, in the Cat 5's.
IMHO
--D-y

Gotta disagree here. Up until Thor couldn't follow the last
acceleration w/ 3km to go, Garmin-Cervelo were executing perfect
tactics, and Thor himself did exactly what he was supposed to do. The
team put a man out front to help if/when he caught up, and when it was
apparent that the catch wasn't coming, they let him ride away from the
break to force Cancellara and others to work even harder.

What would you, if you were to put on your DS hat, have had him do,
trade pulls w/ Cancellara to 'prove' he was stronger? Boonen tried it
last year at Flanders, it failed. Thor would've failed at it, too.

Fred

--D-y wrote:
This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.

Fred wrote:
Gotta disagree here. Up until Thor couldn't follow the last
acceleration w/ 3km to go, Garmin-Cervelo were executing perfect
tactics, and Thor himself did exactly what he was supposed to do. The
team put a man out front to help if/when he caught up, and when it was
apparent that the catch wasn't coming, they let him ride away from the
break to force Cancellara and others to work even harder.

What would you, if you were to put on your DS hat, have had him do,
trade pulls w/ Cancellara to 'prove' he was stronger? Boonen tried it
last year at Flanders, it failed. Thor would've failed at it, too.

It would have been entertaining if Boonen and/or Chavanel had been there
too.

On Apr 10, 4:28*pm, --D-y wrote:
This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.

Nonsense. He tried to escape a couple of times on the pave before
Cancellera started jumping about. He was probably spent by the time
Cancellera started complaining - understandably - about him not
working in the group. If anything, he was a victim today - he looked
strong all day.

UD

On Apr 10, 12:23*pm, --D-y wrote:

First USCF license in 1980. First sewups in '72.

Comments stand. Negative teamwork to defeat a stronger opponent--
somewhat stinky but fine, except for having the Rainbow Jersey on his
back.
"Team orders" are no justification.


dumbass,

so, you're old you and still have an amateur perspective.

check the PR start list. are there solo riders registered ? no you can
only compete in professional cycling as a team - because it is a team
sport. since his team won it is just as if he had won. so it was a
good day for him.

On Apr 10, 1:40*pm, Fred wrote:
On Apr 10, 10:28*am, --D-y wrote:

This isn't the Wednesday Night Crit series, it's the Queen of the
Classics.
Hushovd did not ride like a champion, but a team worker.
Good for van Summeren; a fine reward for work done for others, but
this was negative racing meant not to win, or meant *less* to win,
than to try to prevent another (aptly nicknamed Spartacus) from
winning. I mean to say, tacticss that don't exactly smell good even at
the WNCS, in the Cat 5's.
IMHO
--D-y

Gotta disagree here. *Up until Thor couldn't follow the last
acceleration w/ 3km to go, Garmin-Cervelo were executing perfect
tactics, and Thor himself did exactly what he was supposed to do. *The
team put a man out front to help if/when he caught up, and when it was
apparent that the catch wasn't coming, they let him ride away from the
break to force Cancellara and others to work even harder.

What would you, if you were to put on your DS hat, have had him do,
trade pulls w/ Cancellara to 'prove' he was stronger? *Boonen tried it
last year at Flanders, it failed. *Thor would've failed at it, too.

Fred

I thought it was a terrible mistake on Garmin's part to let 30 riders
go up the road after Orchies. It's one thing to have a strongman like
van Summeren and another team mate up the road in a group of 10 but
there was no way the Hushovd group (with more Garmin riders) are going
to catch a group that big that far up the road without helping. At
that time, it was probably best for Garmin to work Hushovd to the
front for a sprint finish knowing Boonen wasn't going to be there.
-Mike

On Apr 10, 2:42*pm, Mike Owens wrote:

I thought it was a terrible mistake on Garmin's part to let 30 riders
go up the road after Orchies. *

dumbass,

they won the race.

if you're going to make the argument that a team made a tactical
mistake pick a race they didn't win. it will be a lot easier.

On Apr 10, 2:49*pm, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Apr 10, 2:42*pm, Mike Owens wrote:

I thought it was a terrible mistake on Garmin's part to let 30 riders
go up the road after Orchies. *

dumbass,

they won the race.

if you're going to make the argument that a team made a tactical
mistake pick a race they didn't win. it will be a lot easier.

My name is Mike.

They hadn't won the race yet. It was also a mistake for Cancellera to
let 30 riders go up the road without him.
-Mike