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  #51  
Old November 18th 08, 06:16 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Nov 18, 10:12*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Nov 18, 3:42 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

You must live the life of a lone eagle in order to be Great. There is no
other way!
Opinion stated as fact ... nothing new there.. *Don't sing it ...


prove that you are this mythological great lone eagle. *Pull the
computer plug, abandon the internet, sever your cyber-umbilical chord.
and return to your books and cats. *If you can't do that then is no
longer any need for you to continue to insult the readers intelligence
by pretending that you can. *Insistence without action only serves to
undermine your credibility. *You will only convince the readership of
your sincerity when you follow through. *Until then, you can stop
blowing sunshine up our collective asses.

This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top isolated
from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it
stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do.


You have a computer and internet connection that works up there?
Irrelevant diversion duly noted. You, your computer and your internet
connection are inseparable. Until you become detached ,you are not a
lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a
purist's strict definition. No matter what kind of spin you vainly
attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not
altered. You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label
you put on it. To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must
go. So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the
computer? The conundrum continues.

Regards,


Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 19th 08, 05:03 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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On Nov 18, 10:07 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture,
which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply
means
that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone.
[...]


Contradicting yourself again??? Am I to assume that you are now

recanting your previous statement when you wrote ... Unlike
JimmyMac, I was never stupid enough to think computers were
important. Well are they or are they not stupid? That is the
question and which Ed really believes is yet another. If I am to
accept the preposterous premise that a computer and the internet
comprise a conduit to culture, than that begs the question as to what
was the conduit in the past prior to the invention of the computer and
the internet. A hermit shuns all form of social contact and
interaction with others, so then you must not be a true hermit, sort
of like being a lacto-ov-vegetarian or a pescatarian. No matter
though. You are what you are, but the bottom line is that you will
not discard the computer and internet connection and will not admit
that you are unwilling and unable to do so. You have made is
abundantly clear that regardless of what you have said to the
contrary, the computer and the internet are an integral part of your
compromised semi- hermetic lifestyle.

A computer and the Internet are NOT important, but they are amusing. When I
no longer find any of this amusing, I will be done with it but not before.
Conduits to culture (artifacts) exist in thousands of different ways, the
main one being language itself. A computer and the Internet is just one
conduit among thousands.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #53  
Old November 19th 08, 05:07 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 10:12 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top
isolated
from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it
stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do.


You have a computer and internet connection that works up there?

Irrelevant diversion duly noted. You, your computer and your internet
connection are inseparable. Until you become detached ,you are not a
lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a
purist's strict definition. No matter what kind of spin you vainly
attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not
altered. You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label
you put on it. To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must
go. So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the
computer? The conundrum continues.

A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently
is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  #54  
Old November 19th 08, 01:10 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Nov 18, 11:07*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Nov 18, 10:12 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

This lone eagle of which I speak must also reside on a mountain top
isolated
from all the rest of the world. The lone eagle does only one thing ... it
stares into the ether. If you would be Great, that is what you must do.
You have a computer and internet connection that works up there?


Irrelevant diversion duly noted. *You, your computer and your internet
connection are inseparable. *Until you become detached ,you are not a
lone eagle ... not even a traditional hermit in accordance with a
purist's strict definition. *No matter what kind of spin you vainly
attempt to put on all this, the reality of the situation is not
altered. *You live a semi-hermetic lifestyle regardless of the label
you put on it. *To become are lone eagle of a hermit the computer must
go. *So which one are you will to give up ... the label or the
computer? * The conundrum continues.

A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently
is alone a lot,


BULL****!!! No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your
computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social
contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun
completely. If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid,
unimportant and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no
difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone
eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. If you cannot
abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows
that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and
internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and
irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid,
unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the
bottom line).

Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant.


INCONGRUOUS!!! Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made
object of cultural or historical significance. Why then would you
refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then
subsequently label it an artifact? The conundrum continues!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #55  
Old November 19th 08, 01:16 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Nov 18, 11:03*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Nov 18, 10:07 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

Being a hermit has nothing to do with cutting yourself off from a culture,
which in part is what a computer and the Internet provides. It simply
means
that you do not see many people and prefer to be alone.
[...]
Contradicting yourself again??? Am I to assume that you are now


recanting your previous statement when you wrote *... Unlike
JimmyMac, I was never stupid enough to think computers were
important. *Well are they or are they not stupid? *That is the
question and which Ed really believes is yet another. *If I am to
accept the preposterous premise that a computer and the internet
comprise a *conduit to culture, than that begs the question as to what
was the conduit in the past prior to the invention of the computer and
the internet. *A hermit shuns all form of social contact and
interaction with others, so then you must not be a true hermit, sort
of like being a lacto-ov-vegetarian or a pescatarian. *No matter
though. *You are what you are, but the bottom line is that you will
not discard the computer and internet connection and will not admit
that you are unwilling and unable to do so. *You have made is
abundantly clear that regardless of what you have said to the
contrary, the computer and the internet are an integral part of your
compromised semi- hermetic lifestyle.

A computer and the Internet are NOT important, but they are amusing. When I
no longer find any of this amusing, I will be done with it but not before..
Conduits to culture (artifacts) exist in thousands of different ways, the
main one being language itself. A computer and the Internet is just one
conduit among thousands.


What is amusing is your inane incongruity. Your computer and internet
connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something
a real, true hermit would shun completely. If unimportant, then
abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into
the real domain of the hermit. I refer you to my reply in your next
post in this regard.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #56  
Old November 19th 08, 01:26 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 11:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently
is alone a lot,


BULL****!!! No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your

computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social
contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun
completely. If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid,
unimportant and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no
difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone
eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. If you cannot
abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows
that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and
internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and
irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid,
unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the
bottom line).

A computer is not being with people in the flesh, but only with their
printed words. In other words, with an artifact.

Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant.


INCONGRUOUS!!! Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made
object of cultural or historical significance. Why then would you
refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then
subsequently label it an artifact? The conundrum continues!

An artifact is anything having to do with man - in short, a man made object.
The fact remains I am not with people much. Artifacts have nothing to do
with whether or not one is a hermit. If you avoid people in the flesh like I
do, then you are a hermit. I live in solitude and am quite reclusive.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Old November 20th 08, 01:10 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike
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On Nov 19, 7:26*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message

...
On Nov 18, 11:07 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]

A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and consequently
is alone a lot,
BULL****!!! *No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your


computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social
contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun
completely. *If your computer is as you have asserted ... stupid,
unimportant *and irrelevant (your adjectives), then you should have no
difficulty in abandoning them and become transformed into the lone
eagle (read real, true hermit) that you claim to be. *If you cannot
abandon your computer and internet connection, then it follows
that ... 1, You are not a full fledged hermit, 2. Your computer and
internet connection are, in reality, not stupid, unimportant and
irrelevant, and 3. Stating that they are is what is stupid,
unimportant and irrelevant ... and, that's that on that (read the
bottom line).

A computer is not being with people in the flesh, but only with their
printed words. In other words, with an artifact.

Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant.


INCONGRUOUS!!! *Conan the librarian ... an artifact is a man made
object of cultural or historical significance. *Why then would you
refer to a computer as stupid, unimportant and irrelevant and then
subsequently label it an artifact? *The conundrum continues!

An artifact is anything having to do with man - in short, a man made object.
The fact remains I am not with people much. Artifacts have nothing to do
with whether or not one is a hermit. If you avoid people in the flesh like I
do, then you are a hermit. I live in solitude and am quite reclusive.


A rose by any other name is still a rose ... contact is contact.

Regards,


Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #58  
Old November 21st 08, 02:56 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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BULL****!!!


Quit making me laugh, you heartless fiend!

No matter what kind of spin you put on this, your
computer and internet connection serve as your conduit of social
contact of sorts, something a real, true hermit would shun
completely.


i am trying to remember roanoke fondly, as my home, the one i shouldn't feel
sorry for leaving

mk50000


"Suspect each moment, for it is a thief, tiptoeing away with more than it
brings. "--A Month of Sundays, John Updike

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Old November 23rd 08, 05:01 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...
A hermit simply prefers his own company to that of others and
consequently

is alone a lot. Artifacts like computers and the Internet are irrelevant.



Not a very compelling argument

You don't prefer your own company to that of others. If you preferred your
own then you wouldn't be here arguing with other people. The computer would
be of no interest to you if it were not populated with people whom you could
deride and feel superior to. In order for you to have a sense of self you
need these others to compare yourself to.


mk5000


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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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Heads up..the entire country isnt Democrat.


no not entirely democrat, entirely socialist. I don't know if you have
been following this. but since you are on the internet, you should notice
that the internet is socialized
a government owned thing. .

If it were...it would be
the United Peoples Republik of Amerika....and the flag would feature a
hammer and sickle



you will probably see or hear stuff about this from at least some small
percentage of your kids or other people's kids.

The hammer and sickle are communist not socialist,

I think the Usian socialists use a zig zag kind of a bolt of lightning

mk5000

Whether you have a Euro or a pound in your pocket the currency will
continue to be run from London. However, the London it will be run
from is the London of the international monetary markets and not a
group of politicians or Bank of England grandees. In other words, no,
don't vote Tory. No government has any meaningful control of the
currency."--lattara


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Old November 23rd 08, 05:03 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,alt.mountain-bike,alt.usenet.legends.lester-mosley
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
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What is amusing is your inane incongruity. Your computer and internet
connection serve as your conduit of social contact of sorts, something
a real, true hermit would shun completely. If unimportant, then
abandon your computer and the internet and embark upon a journey into
the real domain of the hermit. I refer you to my reply in your next
post in this regard.


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Lolcat

mk5000

"For woman is yin, the darkness within, where untempered passions lie. And
man is yang, bright truth lighting our minds." --Amy Tan, Joy Luck CLub

 




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