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Do *You* Hate Motorists? Take The Test
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:16:35 +0100, "Brimstone"
wrote: Mark wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:59:18 +0100, "Adam Lea" wrote: wrote: On 25 Apr, 19:30, "alan.holmes" wrote: wrote in message Was she silly enough to pay the fine, or did she ask to see the 'evidence'? She admitted she was doing 40 mph in a 30 mph zone outside of a school and since she had no money *I* was silly enough to pay the fine! I hope she took you out to a meal (or something similar) as compensation. I hope she stopped driving completely. 40mph past a school is inexcusable IMHO. Surely that depends on the circumstances? To me this shows a lack of care, awareness and consideration. All of which should be present for someone to be allowed to drive IMHO. (I am a parent and school governor and have been campaigning, with only minor successes, for many years for road/pavement safety improvements to be made near the schools so I am particularly sensitive to Simon's statement.) -- (\__/) M. (='.'=) Owing to the amount of spam posted via googlegroups and (")_(") their inaction to the problem. I am blocking most articles posted from there. If you wish your postings to be seen by everyone you will need use a different method of posting. |
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Mark wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:16:35 +0100, "Brimstone" wrote: Mark wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:59:18 +0100, "Adam Lea" wrote: wrote: On 25 Apr, 19:30, "alan.holmes" wrote: wrote in message Was she silly enough to pay the fine, or did she ask to see the 'evidence'? She admitted she was doing 40 mph in a 30 mph zone outside of a school and since she had no money *I* was silly enough to pay the fine! I hope she took you out to a meal (or something similar) as compensation. I hope she stopped driving completely. 40mph past a school is inexcusable IMHO. Surely that depends on the circumstances? To me this shows a lack of care, awareness and consideration. All of which should be present for someone to be allowed to drive IMHO. (I am a parent and school governor and have been campaigning, with only minor successes, for many years for road/pavement safety improvements to be made near the schools so I am particularly sensitive to Simon's statement.) Understood. A confirmed 40 in a 30 limit is completely OTT as the speedo would have been showing even more. |
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"Mark" wrote in message ... To me this shows a lack of care, awareness and consideration. All of which should be present for someone to be allowed to drive IMHO. (I am a parent and school governor and have been campaigning, with only minor successes, for many years for road/pavement safety improvements to be made near the schools so I am particularly sensitive to Simon's statement.) I would be interested to know what improvements you would like to see concerning road/pavement safety. |
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:02:35 +0100
Mark wrote: I hope she stopped driving completely. 40mph past a school is inexcusable IMHO. That rather depends on the road layout, conditions, time of day ... don't you think? |
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:44:43 +0100, Peter Clinch
wrote: Given the options of lots of people being in denial or the cameras that caught them being wrong, he seems to think the former option is considerably more likely. You know, I really think he might be onto something there... Guy -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/urc | http://www.nohelmetlaw.org.uk/ "To every complex problem there is a solution which is simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken Newsgroup may contain nuts. |
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"Simon Mason" wrote in message . uk... "alan.holmes" wrote in message ... I assumed, in the first instance, that the devices were reliable, so I took it that I had exceeded the speed limit, I have no idea whether I was guilty of exceeding the speed limit on the others, but the fact they were dropped, makes me feel I was not guilty, as are probably most people trapped by these things. Did you not know if you were exceeding the speed limit? Surely, it is a prerequisite of driving on a public road to a) be able to know what the speed limit is for the road you are on and the class of vehicle you are driving and b) be capable of driving the vehicle at no more than this limit. Unfortunately I do not have your facility of being able to watch the speedometer and the road at the same time, I'm more concerned aout not killing someone than being paranoid about the speed I'm doing, if it is just right for the conditions then I'm happy, if however I feel I am going too fast for the conditions then I slow down. Do you just drive around willy-nilly not knowing if you are speeding or not? In my case, when I got 3 speeding fines through the post addressed to me, I knew it couldn't possibly be me as I don't speed, why weren't you as sure? I'm curious as to why you got 3 speeding fines when you knew you were not speeding, did you pay them? |
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"Peter Clinch" wrote in message ... Simon Mason wrote: Did you not know if you were exceeding the speed limit? Surely, it is a prerequisite of driving on a public road to a) be able to know what the speed limit is for the road you are on and the class of vehicle you are driving and b) be capable of driving the vehicle at no more than this limit. My dad was caught by a camera last year. Fair cop, he hadn't been paying enough attention, guilty as charged. He went on the "awareness course" offered, and said that he was the only guilty person there. /Everyone/ else would swear it was all a frightful injustice. How did he know he was speeding? And if he knew why didn't he slow down? Or did he just take the word of the police who really don't give a damn whether you really are speeding, just so it increases their fund. Given the options of lots of people being in denial or the cameras that caught them being wrong, he seems to think the former option is considerably more likely. I assure you he is wrong, the camera are not properly calibrated, and the people responcible for them do not care just as long as idiots who are caught by them believe them. A nice little earner! There are only two devices I would not chalenge, the hand held RADAR guns which are checked at the start and end of every shift, and police cars as I assume they are checked fairly frequently. |
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alan.holmes wrote:
Unfortunately I do not have your facility of being able to watch the speedometer and the road at the same time, I'm more concerned aout not killing someone than being paranoid about the speed I'm doing, if it is just right for the conditions then I'm happy, if however I feel I am going too fast for the conditions then I slow down. Is that the approach you used when you took your test ? |
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alan.holmes wrote:
How did he know he was speeding? He saw the flash, checked the speedo, noted it was speed limit. So unless he managed to speed up considerably in the rather short time between the camera flash and the speedo check it was bang to rights, as he had the honesty and integrity to admit. And if he knew why didn't he slow down? He subsequently did, but his car being somewhat less adroit at time travel than the Tardis, it was a bit late by then. Or did he just take the word of the police who really don't give a damn whether you really are speeding, just so it increases their fund. As above. I assure you he is wrong, the camera are not properly calibrated, and the people responcible for them do not care just as long as idiots who are caught by them believe them. Well, proof by assertion, that's jolly convincing, especially in light of the above where the speedo check happened to coincide with what speed he was alleged to have been doing. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |
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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 08:30:14 +0100
Peter Clinch wrote: Well, proof by assertion, that's jolly convincing, Did you expect any better? |
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